Guess it's more to each their own.
I didn't find Shaw worth that much. Especially if the team just moved one of their best C's to acquire 1 of those 2nds

I think we see it differently.
I don't think Subban would have regressed like this on Montreal. He fit the system well and was a great offensive dman.

Sergachev is also 3rd pair because of the talent in front of him blocking him from moving up.
Columbus series Sergachev was an absolute beast making great defensive plays to save his team. He is 100% noticeable and will only get better from here.
He is also not being rushed because there's no need to. He's got a better chance of hitting his ceiling like this as he gets to learn the game at a better pace learning from the likes of Victor Hedman and McD.

Sorry to nitpick, but Ellers deal was two future 2nd, not that draft. As someone that LOVES watching the draft, I was pretty pissed off we traded 2x2nd, but ended up liking Shaw.

Subban regressed due to his back injury. So its likely he would have regressed regardless. Hopefully this extended break for him he can bounce back with a healthy back.

I think we see it differently.
I don't think Subban would have regressed like this on Montreal. He fit the system well and was a great offensive dman.

Sergachev is also 3rd pair because of the talent in front of him blocking him from moving up.
Columbus series Sergachev was an absolute beast making great defensive plays to save his team. He is 100% noticeable and will only get better from here.
He is also not being rushed because there's no need to. He's got a better chance of hitting his ceiling like this as he gets to learn the game at a better pace learning from the likes of Victor Hedman and McD.

I’ll agree to disagree on Sergachev.

While Subban may not have regressed as quickly on the habs, I still think the best part of that trade for the habs was getting rid of Subban’s attitude and adding Shea’s leadership. There’s no doubt that Shea has done wonders for this franchise and it’s young players.

I’ll agree to disagree on Sergachev.

While Subban may not have regressed as quickly on the habs, I still think the best part of that trade for the habs was getting rid of Subban’s attitude and adding Shea’s leadership. There’s no doubt that Shea has done wonders for this franchise and it’s young players.

Subban trade is a C+/B- for me.

Leaning towards B-, but they had a bad process that led to a good result.

Subban trade is a C+/B- for me.

Leaning towards B-, but they had a bad process that led to a good result.

As a HUGE PK Subban fan, this is undeniable if only for the Weber part. The stories about this guys leadership is invaluable. I love PKs attitude, but I can see how it rubs some people the wrong way.

As a person off the ice when he’s completely separate from hockey, I love PK. He’d make a great analyst. But I’m not sure that that kind of personality would mesh in a locker room.

The one guy I do feel bad for is Galchenyuk.
The media was eating him alive while he was battling a substance problem. The coaches kept punishing him for no reason.

Living in montreal, I still don't know how Mario Tremblay is employed. The guy single handidly put the Habs franchise back 10 years

I definitely feel bad for Chucky. He was a high pick that didn’t live up to expectations set on him by fans and media. I was glad that he got a new chance to play in more anonymity when he got traded to Arizona, but it’s unfortunate it hasn’t worked out anywhere.

I don’t blame the coaches though. Galchenyuk just wasn’t good enough to play in the top 9, and because of where he was drafted, that was viewed as a terrible thing by the media.