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Tatar to PIT

Créé par: math731
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 15 août 2020
Publié: 15 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Value wise :
Tatar = Poulin + 2nd rounder
7 millions in free cap + 2nd rounder = 20 OA
Transactions
MTL
  1. Bjugstad, Nick
  2. Johnson, Jack
  3. Poulin, Samuel
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
PIT
  1. Tatar, Tomas (2 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
Extended
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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Logo de MTL
Logo de WSH
Logo de MTL
Logo de ANA
Logo de WPG
Logo de MTL
Logo de FLA
Logo de MTL
Logo de CHI
Logo de OTT
2021
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de CHI
Logo de MTL
Logo de STL
Logo de VGK
Logo de MTL
Logo de OTT
Logo de PHI
Logo de MTL
2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2581 500 000 $76 832 142 $0 $495 000 $4 667 858 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 350 000 $2 350 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
800 000 $800 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
763 333 $763 333 $ (Bonis de performance70 000 $$70K)
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 050 000 $2 050 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 625 000 $4 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 7
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
748 333 $748 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
700 000 $700 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 4

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15 août 2020 à 20 h 8
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Boris Bagel
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Too much junk coming back
Pitts can keep Jack & Nick
15 août 2020 à 20 h 10
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Well you have to take that salary and those junk if you want the no 15 pick

and poulin is in the deal too

overpay for pits i think
Thielraven a aimé ceci.
15 août 2020 à 20 h 12
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Overpayment for pens
15 août 2020 à 20 h 12
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Why would Pitts do that? They save money but only for the one year, it gets them nowhere
15 août 2020 à 20 h 15
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Quoting: Howisbergevinstillhere
Why would Pitts do that? They save money but only for the one year, it gets them nowhere


Rutherford Talk about making some change...

Poile Said the same thing in Nash
15 août 2020 à 20 h 16
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Rutherford Talk about making some change...

Poile Said the same thing in Nash

Is Tatar really that change? Move Johnson’s contract for less and sign Hall, Hoffman or dadanov
15 août 2020 à 20 h 18
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Poeple keep asking why cap space Is good...Well just check The UFA this year and RFA...many good player wont come back with there team and main reason will be cap space...
15 août 2020 à 20 h 19
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Quoting: Howisbergevinstillhere
Is Tatar really that change? Move Johnson’s contract for less and sign Hall, Hoffman or dadanov


if tatar can score more then 20 goal playing with a Defensive center like danault how much can he score beside malkin or crosby?

And dont forget he retain a part of his salary so tatar will cost something like 2.8 to pens
15 août 2020 à 20 h 22
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if tatar can score more then 20 goal playing with a Defensive center like danault how much can he score beside malkin or crosby?


I like Tatar but he fit in perfectly in our system and on a line with gally and danault. Danault also had crazy good numbers 5v5 so don’t call him “defensive”. I think you can shed Johnson and sign one of the mentioned above or trade for some big talent. That trade is a lot to give up for tatar
15 août 2020 à 20 h 52
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Quoting: Howisbergevinstillhere
Why would Pitts do that? They save money but only for the one year, it gets them nowhere

If they sign a guy like Dandonov as well, theyre becoming a pretty good team once again imo.

Imo Tatar extended and retained is worth more than Poulin. Then that money saved (especially the four years remaining on JJ contract) plus the second and the extra value of Tatar gives the 15th OA. Maybe replace the 2nd with Mete. That would gives them a young LHD able to play top 4 minutes
15 août 2020 à 22 h 25
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If they sign a guy like Dandonov as well, theyre becoming a pretty good team once again imo.

Imo Tatar extended and retained is worth more than Poulin. Then that money saved (especially the four years remaining on JJ contract) plus the second and the extra value of Tatar gives the 15th OA. Maybe replace the 2nd with Mete. That would gives them a young LHD able to play top 4 minutes


Tatar is only retained for this one year. Yes they can sign dadanov and Tatar but where’s the money coming from? The 7 that we take back basically is given to Tatar. Can’t see how Tatar is worth 15, poulin and 3 years at 3.25 for jack Johnson, it’s not that difficult to burry him like alzner
16 août 2020 à 5 h 25
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Rutherford Talk about making some change...

Poile Said the same thing in Nash


people seem to miss the point about getting younger. Not bringing in guys who are 30.

Penguins probably play Poulin next year. That is my guess. Him and Hallander. It's good for the cap, and probably the best option they have.
Tatar is a good player. But the last thing they need is another smallish forward on the Crosby line. The problem isn't the skill. It's they are always getting knocked to the ground by teams playing them heavy because the line is small.
Tatar doesn't really fix that. The goal is to win the playoffs not the regular season.
16 août 2020 à 10 h 5
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Quoting: pharrow
people seem to miss the point about getting younger. Not bringing in guys who are 30.

Penguins probably play Poulin next year. That is my guess. Him and Hallander. It's good for the cap, and probably the best option they have.
Tatar is a good player. But the last thing they need is another smallish forward on the Crosby line. The problem isn't the skill. It's they are always getting knocked to the ground by teams playing them heavy because the line is small.
Tatar doesn't really fix that. The goal is to win the playoffs not the regular season.


This core have to change they win it twice and they think they can do it again without pushing so they dont push and lose to a small team MTL
16 août 2020 à 17 h 19
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This core have to change they win it twice and they think they can do it again without pushing so they dont push and lose to a small team MTL


The core isn't the issue. It never has been. It wasn't the issue when the penguins didn't win after 2009, and it isn't the issue now. It is and always has been the supporting members.
No one is expecting Crosby or Malkin to go out there and deliver huge hits or drop gloves. Star players don't do that. They end up with a broken hand or something.
And no one would say they don't play hard. They do. They dominated in ice time. This team lost to MTL because of the support around them. They need a 6'3 6'4 winger with size who is a rough guy on the top line with crosby, so when they go after his 40 goal winger there is someone to smack them around for it.
They also need better 3rd pairing defense. MTL isn't dumb. They knew which defense pair to target and they ate them alive. The 3rd pairing gave up like 60% of the goals. That can't be.
 
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