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Eriksson Roussel and Sutter Traded

Créé par: OldNYIfan
Date de création initiale: jui 22, 2020
Publié: 8 aoû à 14 h 03
Équipe: 2020-21 Canucks de Vancouver
Explications
Vancouver’s future revolves around two questions:

1. How many of their four major free agents this year do the Canucks want to re-sign?
2. How do the Canucks give Elias Pettersson and Quinn Hughes and perhaps Tanner Pearson new contracts in the following year?

This construction assumes that Vancouver wants to re-up Markstrom, Toffoli, Tanev and Stecher this off-season. Obviously, if the Canucks decide not to, or one of the UFAs goes elsewhere, the second issue virtually disappears.

I’m also assuming that Micheal Ferland is unable to continue his career. If he is, that would complicate matters severely.

The Canucks have the following money coming off the books in 2021: Edler ($6 million), Benn ($2 million), Sutter per this proposal ($875,000), Spooner ($1,033,333) and Baertschi per this proposal ($966,666), for a total of $10,875,000. Add to that the $3.4 million remaining in the bank and that’s $14,275,000 for 2021-2022. Assume it will take $2 million to replace Edler and Benn (but Rathbone and Rafferty might be ready). If Pettersson gets the Rantanen contract, then Vancouver can re-sign Hughes for $5 million and will have to let Pearson go unless Beagle can be moved. On the other hand, if Pettersson can be bridged for $7.5 million ($6.5 million additional) and Hughes for $5 million ($4 million additional) that would leave room to re-up Pearson at $5.25 million or so without having to move Beagle.

Protected in the Expansion Draft: Boeser, Gaudette, Horvat, Miller, Pettersson, Toffoli, Virtanen; Myers, Stecher, Tanev; Markstrom

Exposed in the Expansion Draft: Beagle, MacEwen, Motte; Juolevi, Rafferty; Demko

Exempt from the Expansion Draft: Hoglander, Lockwood; Hughes, Rathbone; DiPietro, Silovs

Yes, this year's draft is a lost cause, but it can be argued that it already was. And even with moving Eriksson, the Canucks retain their first-round pick next summer.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Virtanen, Jake22 750 000 $
Stecher, Troy32 666 667 $
Gaudette, Adam32 500 000 $
MacEwen, Zack2950 000 $
Motte, Tyler2950 000 $
Chatfield, Jalen2850 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Markström, Jacob55 500 000 $
Toffoli, Tyler55 400 000 $
Tanev, Christopher45 250 000 $
Ennis, Tyler21 000 000 $
Shore, Nick2900 000 $
Transactions
VAN
  1. Sideroff, Deven [Droits de RFA]
  2. 2021 6e round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Eriksson, Loui (1 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Woo, Jett
  3. 2021 2e round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. 2022 7e round pick (NSH)
NSH
  1. Roussel, Antoine
  2. 2022 6e round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. 2020 4e round pick (BOS)
NJD
  1. Sutter, Brandon (875 000 $ retained)
  2. 2020 3e round pick (VAN)
Rachats de contrats
  • Ryan Spooner: 1 033 333 $
  • Sven Baertschi: 1 766 666 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Loui Eriksson: 1 500 000 $ (25%)
  • Brandon Sutter: 875 000 $ (20%)
Frais appliqués
  • Roberto Luongo: 3 035 212 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
VAN
BOS
VAN
VAN
ANA
2021
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
ANA
VAN
2022
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
VAN
NSH
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $79 798 545 $1 700 000 $4 750 000 $1 701 455 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
VAN
Miller, J.T.
5 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
VAN
Horvat, Bo
5 500 000 $
C
UFA - 3
VAN
Boeser, Brock
5 875 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
VAN
Pearson, Tanner
3 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
VAN
Pettersson, Elias
925 000 $
C
RFA - 1
VAN
Toffoli, Tyler
5 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Ennis, Tyler
1 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
VAN
Gaudette, Adam
2 500 000 $
C
RFA - 1
VAN
Virtanen, Jake
2 750 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
VAN
Motte, Tyler
950 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
VAN
Beagle, Jay
3 000 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 2
VAN
MacEwen, Zack
950 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
VAN
Höglander, Nils
891 667 $
AG
RFA - 3
Shore, Nick
900 000 $
C
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
VAN
Edler, Alexander
6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
VAN
Myers, Tyler
6 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 4
VAN
Markström, Jacob
5 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 6
VAN
Hughes, Quinn
916 667 $
DG
RFA - 1
VAN
Tanev, Christopher
5 250 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 4
VAN
Demko, Thatcher
1 050 000 $
G
RFA - 1
VAN
Benn, Jordie
2 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
VAN
Stecher, Troy
2 666 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
VAN
Juolevi, Olli
863 333 $
DG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
VAN
Ferland, Micheal
3 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 3

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8 aoû à 14 h 08
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HadesOfSocal
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We want nothing to do with Ericksson lol
8 aoû à 14 h 10
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Quoting: HadesOfSoCal
We want nothing to do with Ericksson lol


We want a lot to do with two prime futures, especially one at RD. He will compete with Axel Andersson for a spot in 2021-2022.
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8 aoû à 14 h 17
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Preds pass. Don't want to use limited cap space on a $3m 4th liner
8 aoû à 14 h 22
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The fantastic problem that VAN has is that Petey and Hughes look so good right now that even their bridge deals will likely have quite a high cap hit. I think the best move for VAN is to leave as much space available for 2021 as humanly possible so they can at least attempt to lock up both of them long term, even if it means not bringing back Tanev and Toffoli in this scenario.

For starters, I really hope they don't give Tanev a contract like that. He's past his oft-injured prime and I think there are younger, cheaper options in free agency to take his spot. I agree it seems like a better than 50/50 chance that Ferland goes on permanent LTIR, which will help open up some room.
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8 aoû à 14 h 25
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
We want a lot to do with two prime futures, especially one at RD. He will compete with Axel Andersson for a spot in 2021-2022.


You think Woo would be that high
8 aoû à 14 h 25
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Quoting: villenash
Preds pass. Don't want to use limited cap space on a $3m 4th liner


Limited cap space? After acquiring Roussel, you'd have $6.5 million to spread among 5 bottom-tier players; it's unlikely you'd want to do more in view of the impending expansion draft.
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Quoting: HadesOfSoCal
You think Woo would be that high


Yes, he's rated the equivalent of Jacob Larsson and Brendan Guhle and slightly ahead of Andersson.
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Anytime I see a cap dump post and the team has all it's 1sts I know it's unrealistic.
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Yes, he's rated the equivalent of Jacob Larsson and Brendan Guhle and slightly ahead of Andersson.


Huh maybe then.
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Quoting: HadesOfSoCal
Huh maybe then.


Woo is the reason why I think Vancouver wouldn't have to give us a first to take on Eriksson. Compare with the Backes acquisition, where the contracts are virtually identical: we sent Boston a real, live, good player (Ondrej Kase) for a first, a good RD prospect and the cap hit minus a $1.5 million retention. Here, we're sending an AHLer plus a low draft pick for a better RD prospect, a second and the cap hit minus $1.5 million retention. Basically, I'm contending that the 31st overall plus Andersson = roughly the 45th overall plus Woo. Yes, Anaheim is absorbing more risk than Vancouver (primarily, that the Canucks would finish higher in the standings than at least two of Las Vegas, Edmonton, Calgary and one of the SoCal teams), but I think that it would be worth it.
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