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Domi winger and breaking that 1st line

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Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
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6 août 2020 à 4 h 49
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Ok you clearly never watch a Habs game if you think Suzuki isn’t already a top6 C at 20 yo lol


You said elite. He's not. Sure he can play top 6 now, but that's in Montreal. Name a GOOD team where he would be on the top 2 lines?
6 août 2020 à 4 h 53
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It's just terrible asset management with what they are doing with Domi. He proved he can produce 70 points as a center, don't move him to the wing! The organization has the same vue as me I believe, since they aren't having him play there.
If they have already made up their minds that they are trading him though, maybe they shouldn't be playing him on the 4th line lol They can't wait one measly playoffs, that they have no chance at winning let's be honest, and have Domi play as their top Center, to boost his trade value? Again, terrible asset management.


they’re going to keep him unless he demands a trade.
6 août 2020 à 4 h 53
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He’s either a troll or he’s delusional at this point. 😭😭Suzuki deserves every bit of ice time he has. Suzuki is actually the 1C as Kotkaniemi and him bumped Danault to 3rd line center after the recent line changes, which is crazy since those 2 are 20 and Danault is a very capable top 6 shutdown 55 point C.


Neither am I delusional or trying to "troll". Perhaps you should look in the mirror. I'm just trying to give my honest opinion. It doesn't matter though, none your centers can match up to my leafs.
6 août 2020 à 4 h 56
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they’re going to keep him unless he demands a trade.


If so they are wasting him away behind the other 3.
6 août 2020 à 4 h 58
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Quoting: Darth_Dubious
You said elite. He's not. Sure he can play top 6 now, but that's in Montreal. Name a GOOD team where he would be on the top 2 lines?


Suzuki is a 2C on FLA, CAR, CBJ, COL, NYR (Strome is gone), DAL, WPG, MIN, NSH, VGK, CGY, ARI and MTL. Suzuki will also be better next year, so he would likely surpass some 2Cs on other teams. That’s 12 teams in the play-ins alone. He is a top 2 center on many bottom 8 teams too.
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6 août 2020 à 5 h 1
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You said elite. He's not. Sure he can play top 6 now, but that's in Montreal. Name a GOOD team where he would be on the top 2 lines?


I never said he’s Elite right now, but he’s gonna be Elite. Really ? Name a team he’ll be top6 ? At least 15 teams easy Minnesota Calgary Buffalo Carolina Anaheim Nashville Winnipeg New York Rangers Columbus Chicago Dallas Detroit Florida Los Angeles New Jersey Ottawa Montreal .......
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Suzuki is a 2C on FLA, CAR, CBJ, COL, NYR (Strome is gone), DAL, WPG, MIN, VGK, CGY, ARI and MTL. Suzuki will also be better next year, so he would likely surpass some 2Cs on other teams.


I gave the edge to Kadri and Dvorak Schmaltz over Suzuki for now
6 août 2020 à 5 h 1
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Neither am I delusional or trying to "troll". Perhaps you should look in the mirror. I'm just trying to give my honest opinion. It doesn't matter though, none your centers can match up to my leafs.


just poking around. i respect your opinion for real, but i disagree with it. who cares if their centers don’t match up to the leafs. as long as they can match up against most teams we’re good. we aren’t even supposed to be contending. it’s a nice surprise seeing us do well in the play-ins. Danault can basically shutdown most 1Cs and KK/Suzuki will be a great 1-2 punch in the near future. At least we won’t have to trade half of our team to keep our centers. 😬😜
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6 août 2020 à 5 h 3
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I gave the edge to Kadri and Dvorak Schmaltz over Suzuki for now

Suzuki already has more points than Kadri and Dvorak and he’ll be better next season anyway most likely.
6 août 2020 à 5 h 4
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Suzuki already has more points than Kadri and Dvorak and he’ll be better next season anyway most likely.


And better defensively than them lol agree that’s what ? 18 teams now 19 lmao
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6 août 2020 à 5 h 8
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And better defensively than them lol agree that’s what ? 18 teams now 19 lmao


yeah i think we’ve more than proven our point lol. he’s a 2C on basically 2/3 of the league and the teams we didn’t name are the best teams in the league who are stacked at center and are well built for the playoffs, the leafs and the islanders (barely) lol.
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6 août 2020 à 5 h 10
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Suzuki is a 2C on FLA, CAR, CBJ, COL, NYR (Strome is gone), DAL, WPG, MIN, VGK, CGY, ARI and MTL. Suzuki will also be better next year, so he would likely surpass some 2Cs on other teams.


That's a hilarious list lol If you think teams like FLA, CBJ, NYR, MIN, ARI are GOOD teams, your standards are very low. He doesn't bump Aho or Trochek in CAR, maybe not even Staal. McKinnon and Kadri are better. No way in Vegas with Stastny, Karlsson, and even Marchessault. CGY Monahan and Backlund are better. So that basically leaves DAL and WIN where you'd be right, and neither are contenders.

So this just furthers my point. Let the kid develop properly, don't rush him. He's only 20 years old. How about I throw you an olive branch? Rotate Domi and Suzuki from your 3rd and 2nd line.
6 août 2020 à 5 h 12
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I never said he’s Elite right now, but he’s gonna be Elite. Really ? Name a team he’ll be top6 ? At least 15 teams easy Minnesota Calgary Buffalo Carolina Anaheim Nashville Winnipeg New York Rangers Columbus Chicago Dallas Detroit Florida Los Angeles New Jersey Ottawa Montreal .......


I did say GOOD teams didn't I? Out of all of those you mentioned, there's only like 3-4 of them...
6 août 2020 à 5 h 15
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That's a hilarious list lol If you think teams like FLA, CBJ, NYR, MIN, ARI are GOOD teams, your standards are very low. He doesn't bump Aho or Trochek in CAR, maybe not even Staal. McKinnon and Kadri are better. No way in Vegas with Stastny, Karlsson, and even Marchessault. CGY Monahan and Backlund are better. So that basically leaves DAL and WIN where you'd be right, and neither are contenders.

So this just furthers my point. Let the kid develop properly, don't rush him. He's only 20 years old. How about I throw you an olive branch? Rotate Domi and Suzuki from your 3rd and 2nd line.


they’re play in teams...He bumps down Trockek, Staal 200 %, Backlund and Stastny. Marchessault is a winger lol. Calgary and Vegas will be looking for 2Cs this off-season so I don’t think that they’re set there. Why would we play Suzuki on the third if he scored 40 points and looks like a 3C. That’s just hindering his development if anything. If he’s ready for the job, you give it to him.
6 août 2020 à 5 h 17
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I did say GOOD teams didn't I? Out of all of those you mentioned, there's only like 3-4 of them...


most are play in teams. anyway, most good teams have established teams and their players are already fully developed. we were supposed to draft 9 and try to contend next year lol. i don’t see why you see the need to compare us with other teams. idgaf about other’s team center cores when I’m watch Suzuki and KK play. I think about how impressive they look and how they’ll be rly good in the future.
6 août 2020 à 5 h 21
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That's a hilarious list lol If you think teams like FLA, CBJ, NYR, MIN, ARI are GOOD teams, your standards are very low. He doesn't bump Aho or Trochek in CAR, maybe not even Staal. McKinnon and Kadri are better. No way in Vegas with Stastny, Karlsson, and even Marchessault. CGY Monahan and Backlund are better. So that basically leaves DAL and WIN where you'd be right, and neither are contenders.

So this just furthers my point. Let the kid develop properly, don't rush him. He's only 20 years old. How about I throw you an olive branch? Rotate Domi and Suzuki from your 3rd and 2nd line.


He bumb Trocheck Backlund any day definitely Backlund Stastny do you live in 2018 ?
6 août 2020 à 5 h 33
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This is funny:
- MTL fans are talking about Domi the same way Wild fans do
- TOR fan is talking about Domi like MTL fans do
6 août 2020 à 5 h 58
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Agreed. Also, to KK’s credit, he was good for a 17 year old in his rookie season. His softmore season was disappointing, but he was also playing with defensive players that couldn’t really help him produce. On top of that, his skating, balance and stick work (his stick is a bit long) was still a bit sloppy, all things he greatly improved during quarantine and that he will continue to work on to be an even better player next season.


I agree, I think they should've let KK play in the AHL his first year and while he was good enough in the NHL, he couldve torn up the A and worked more on gaining strength/weight and playing an elite two way game down there. All things considered, they definitely haven't messed him up beyond fixing and him hitting his ceiling is still within reach. They just knocked a year off him hitting his peak (which almost fits the habs rebuild better anyways)
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6 août 2020 à 5 h 59
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I agree, I think they should've let KK play in the AHL his first year and while he was good enough in the NHL, he couldve torn up the A and worked more on gaining strength/weight and playing an elite two way game down there. All things considered, they definitely haven't messed him up beyond fixing and him hitting his ceiling is still within reach. They just knocked a year off him hitting his peak (which almost fits the habs rebuild better anyways)


yeah agreed
6 août 2020 à 6 h 0
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Suzuki is a 2C on FLA, CAR, CBJ, COL, NYR (Strome is gone), DAL, WPG, MIN, NSH, VGK, CGY, ARI and MTL. Suzuki will also be better next year, so he would likely surpass some 2Cs on other teams. That’s 12 teams in the play-ins alone. He is a top 2 center on many bottom 8 teams too.


List here is a little questionable but yeah, hes a 2C and is only getting better. Not better than Kadri, Trochek, Stasny, Lindholm, Johansen at the moment but will be

Edit: Wheeler too if you consider him the 2C on the Jets but theyd welcome Suzuki in that role and moved wheeler Im sure
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It's just terrible asset management with what they are doing with Domi. He proved he can produce 70 points as a center, don't move him to the wing! The organization has the same vue as me I believe, since they aren't having him play there.
If they have already made up their minds that they are trading him though, maybe they shouldn't be playing him on the 4th line lol They can't wait one measly playoffs, that they have no chance at winning let's be honest, and have Domi play as their top Center, to boost his trade value? Again, terrible asset management.


Not terrible asset management when they're strong at C and weak at LW. This is actually good asset management if they move his position within the team rather than trade him for cents on the dollar. Trading for Drouin was bad asset management but this isnt, just cause he put up points as a C doesnt make him a good centre, it makes him a good offensive player and I'm sure he can produce similarly on the wing
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6 août 2020 à 6 h 6
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List here is a little questionable but yeah, hes a 2C and is only getting better. Not better than Kadri, Trochek, Stasny, Lindholm, Johansen at the moment but will be

Edit: Wheeler too if you consider him the 2C on the Jets but theyd welcome Suzuki in that role and moved wheeler Im sure


lindholm is a winger. he produced more than those centers and will likely outscore them that’s what i thought when i made this
6 août 2020 à 6 h 10
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lindholm is a winger. he produced more than those centers and will likely outscore them that’s what i thought when i made this


Lindholms taken 1800 faceoffs the last two seasons, they only ran backlund as the 2C for stretches in the season I thought? And I'm not sure if Suzuki is as developed as the others I mentioned. Stastny is a toss up for who I'd want this year if I was making a cup run but I'd take all the others. Trochek is criminally underrated, Kadri brings a lot of physicality and is really solid defensively, Johansens looked bad offensively on the preds but if he played on a more skilled team he'd be back to his form from a few years ago (also really good defensively)
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Lindholms taken 1800 faceoffs the last two seasons, they only ran backlund as the 2C for stretches in the season I thought? And I'm not sure if Suzuki is as developed as the others I mentioned. Stastny is a toss up for who I'd want this year if I was making a cup run but I'd take all the others. Trochek is criminally underrated, Kadri brings a lot of physicality and is really solid defensively, Johansens looked bad offensively on the preds but if he played on a more skilled team he'd be back to his form from a few years ago (also really good defensively)


fair enough. didn’t know lindholm was at at c i thought we was their 1RW lol
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fair enough. didn’t know lindholm was at at c i thought we was their 1RW lol


Was 1RW 15.4% and 2C 7.6% so played RW more but he'd be a better 2C that Suzuki I think and would be the 2C if they didnt have Backy
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