This is a big boy swing.

So first thing, I don't hate it. It's got balls, it's a lot of things, but it has logic. My only shot on it is Chicago. I Like De Haan and I don't like Risto. (underlying numbers yadda yadda) Hutton helps but those picks don't get me there for them.

I want Chicago to get the worse of the two firsts going to Buffalo instead of the third and that third turn into Buffalo keeping their second. I'd need to pull it apart to see if that even makes sense but something like that. Anyways nice swing.

It’s a creative 3-way no doubt. No matter what trading Eichel the optics will look risky. Very difficult time trading a superstar & fitting in the $10m contract.

Realistically the Sabres need a Starter in net. Next Kreuger has to get them to play a system that they buy into & gets results. Time to move out of ignominy.

Stability & confidence are the biggest hurdles the Sabres face.

I appreciate your sound reply. I was hoping to achieve the stability your team desperately needs in a few ways:

1. By dealing the two draft picks, the Sabres can grab Askarov now, which sets up a future tandem with Georgiev. (As a Ranger fan, I think the Rangers knock off the Hurricanes, and places them as the higher draft slot).

2. Filling in the top two center spots is more cost-effective than having a cantankerous lone center and hoping someone will come along to fill in the other. Plus, if a CBO does arise, it's not hard to imagine that Okposo/Skinner is that candidate.

2a. With a bit more cash to work with, a certain defenseman currently in St. Louis and a left winger in Arizona could be in your locker room by the start of next season. And there will be something left over for Dahlin when his deal expiries, as more money can be freed up following the expansion draft.

It's important that stability does come to the Sabre organization.



Thank you. I didn't want to undercut my second favorite team. But, with a stud like Dach ready to go, the Hawks would be foolish to give Strome cash and keep Dach down.

That said, both Strome brothers being close to home in a place where minutes can be theirs, is just sense, IMO. They won't break the bank; they can continue to refine their careers. Stabilizing the Sabres' top six can reenergize them and the fan base. And as I mentioned, with money to spend, who knows what else they can do to balance out the team.

It seems to me that Eichel will want both a high-profile opportunity and a shot at winning. This isn't to sell Zibanejad short, but hey, Eichel is a franchise player. And, being reunited with David Quinn can only bring stability to this frustrated player.

A thoughtful trader is rarely seen on here. Keep it up.

Someone has to take Seabrook back in this deal for Chicago, otherwise there is 0 incentive to do this.

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Thank you.. that's a high compliment!

No. Use the CBO on Seabrook..solves that.

The trade value isn't there for Chicago in this one man. Were giving up Strome and De Hann while not getting anything we can use back… we don't have room for Risto on the right sight with Seabrook, Boqvist, Mithell, Murphy all being right handed shots. (this is not to mention that I don't think Risto is very good, but I digress)

Carter Hutton isn't an upgrade on our Goaltending and can't be viewed as a future option, hard pass on him.


NGL the picks are kinda garbage when you consider what we have to give up to get them being a top 6 center and a Top 4 D-man.

My original post was kinda reactionary and mostly a joke, but the only way this works is if we move Seabrooks deal in this and can flip Risto for picks.

Edit: Also 0 chance a CBO happens

One: a CBO will be provided to all teams in the upcoming offseason. Using it on Brent Seabrook puts an end to the consistent outcry.

Two: Mitchell is not ready for full-time play, no more than Boqvist. It matters that putting young players in good positions to succeed stabilizes their future. Thus, a two-year flyer on Ristolainen (who is eight years younger than Seabrook) is more palatable given the fact that if the Hawks play it right, can expose him to the expansion draft next season.

So, within two years (which will likely be the right amount of time for the two above defensemen to develop) Chicago can move over $17 million dollars in contracts (DeHaan, Seabrook and Ristolainen) and move towards roster spots opening up without tearing up the payroll and team chemistry to move forward.

Both Boqvist and Mitchell are ready day one next season, Mitchell has had time to develop in college hockey, Boqvist was playing regular minutes for us this season,

CBO’s will likely not be issued, and Risto sucks at hockey in general, so we don’t want or need him. However, let’s say we did want him, for some dumb reason, why would we give up our 2C for him? I think if Risto + Garbage was worth a 2nd line center it would have happened by now.

the biggest problem buffalo has in 8 yr 9m for jeff skinner then a starting goalie 2c 3c and top 9 winger depth .. shall i go on ??

there are most definately pieces here i must not be seeing chicago is getting a lot for nothing going out .. de haan and d. strome .. wow risto and hutton and picks bowman would actually earn his job on this one.. i have no clue why ppl are high on d. strome but imho he is at best a roll player bottom 6... risto is being seroiusly devalued on almost every trade i have seen.. buffalo is getting a serious beatdown on this one imho.. and 2022 nyr 1st that would flat out be DEAL BREAKER..

I see 3C Sutter could be a cheap add to help depth & D & PK & he pots goals ok. Black hole for creating. 2C is hard for many teams. Top 9 W can be had easy enough & not all that pricey.

agree with sutter i have said in several other post that i think buffalo gettting sutter would be a very good fit with the right trade )

i also agree with you that buffalo has a great many options to fix what problems they have.. but i still think that skinner and okposo contracts are 2 biggest hurdles .. go pens go

Cap for many teams is subtract so can add. Buyers market causing less movement.

Because Chicago already has a younger number two center in Dach, who allows them to slot an entry-level contract there, while letting the remainder of money-laden deals ellipse. Oh, by the way, also puts getting a number one goalie (and money to afford him) on the table; with names like Holtby, Lehner and others out there, you don't have to dump players to get one.

Toews is not going to be an effective number 1 center forever, and I like our center depth having Dach, Strome and Toews down the middle.

Really this trade opens up a need without filling one, and team's generally don't like to do that unless the return is very good. The return is nothing to be impressed by.