I think there will be no season before players agree to take a 20% pay cut across the board.

The players union should be abolished if they allow that to happen.

It's following the rules of the cap...which is based on revenues. The majority of NHLPA members are low paid players with contracts due now or soon. They aren't falling on the sword because other players signed contracts on pre Covid revenue predictions.

Thinking that there will be an 86 million dollar cap is legitimately the worst take that’s happened through this pandemic, even with these weird stipulations.

There probably just won’t be a season next year.

I dont think theyll get that high for years. Flat cap in 20-21 then assess your rebound, If the early season is marred by scared fans and woeful attendance theirs no way theyre raising the cap by 5 mill the next season. I would argue for cap retraction in response, but the NHLPA would riot

That take is just as bad though lol

I guess i should have expanded my thought. Unless something drastically changes, like the players taking a 50% pay cut, or a vaccine being produced, I don’t see how there could possibly be a 20-21 season. Do you?

Yes, I wouldnt be worried about covid without a vaccine theyd have a system in place anyway. I think theyll operate at a marginal loss for the year to see where they stand. After the elections when everyone magically forgets about covid, the NHL should be in a better place especially if the season isnt starting till November anyway

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I agree with you there might be not be 2020/21.

Let's imagine there is a season, but the six foot isolation, non contact rule comes into effect. Gee the Leafs will dominate.

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I don't know how the majority of NHLPA would object. Right now the average teams revenue is about 165m....players share half of that. If by chance revenues are cut in half. 83m, how can the NHLPA say we deserve all revenues from the NHL in our members salaries.

The majority of 700 members of the NHLPA would rather some income than none.

What? Wait. What? All evidence points to there being a second wave in the fall, so no, we’re not just going to forget about this after the election. Are you one of those, I guess I’ll call them people, that think this is some sort of an over exaggerated flu to sway American politics? Or was that sarcasm? I’ll hope for the latter.

The NHL won’t be able to just forget about covid because fans won’t be allowed in the damn building. Marginal loss? Do the math. Thats roughly a 1.2 billion dollar league wide. The owners will not do that.

Obviously theirs going to be a 2nd wave. Its not going to disappear. Flattening the curve was never about it disappearing for good. I was being sarcastic, but covid is being milked for political points from both sides. Which brings me back to my first point. We will have more knowledge about Covid by then, we currently are so caught up in medical equipment that we are giving it away to other countries, our hospitals were never filled beyond capacity during this first wave, and we have multiple options already in terms of medicine to cure infected and help them fight the infection. Even now we are learning that we can build immunities to covid if you catch it once, and reports that you could not were due to faulty South Korean tests that were giving false positives. The majority of people who have have caught covid are asymptomatic, there are estimates upwards of 3 to 4 times more may have been exposed to and recovered from it without even knowing they've had it. All of this points to a second wave that will be extremely underwhelming in terms of cases. By then we would normally be allowed to return back to normality (normally we wouldnt have resorted to these measures to begin with), so we can better assess the NHL's, and sports in general, situation financially

It is unbelievable how incorrect this paragraph is. I should have stopped reading when you misspelled the second word. Have a good day sir. Stay safe.

Next year, if there are no fans allowed in games (right now, not just probable, but almost a certainty), the leagues revenue is cut in 4. Given that half the league revenue goes to the players, the season wouldn’t happen as is.

Citations for all my statements:
Reinfection:
https://www.cdc.go.kr/board/board.es?mid=a30402000000&bid=0030

Https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN22J0HR

https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/covid-19-reinfection-south-korean-officials-70775255

Empty hospitals:
https://buffalonews.com/2020/04/13/wny-hospitals-say-theyre-ready-for-the-worst-but-will-it-come/

https://nypost.com/2020/05/20/end-new-york-citys-lockdown-now/

https://www.npr.org/2020/05/07/851712311/u-s-field-hospitals-stand-down-most-without-treating-any-covid-19-patients

Asymptomatic carriers:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/31/health/coronavirus-asymptomatic-transmission.html

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/04/13/831883560/can-a-coronavirus-patient-who-isnt-showing-symptoms-infect-others

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/covid-19-what-proportion-are-asymptomatic/

Treatments:
https://www.healthline.com/health/coronavirus-treatment

Medical equipment:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2020/04/28/coronavirus-hospitals-avoid-ventilator-shortage-curve-new-york-flattens/3036008001/

https://www.foxnews.com/us/cuomo-says-new-york-giving-away-some-ventilators-coronavirus-outbreak-stabilized-there

I will correct myself and say we (NY) were giving ventilators away to others states and not countries, I did mix in the giving of masks to China as part of that story even though that was before the US outbreak. But I cited every statement I made, and all you got is " yOu MiSsPeLlEd ThE sEcOnD wOrD"

Its unbelievable how you dont read anything, are going to sit there and just take what youre told as true, but pretend to be an expert. Better dead than red, peace

It's amazing that you write "So I'll do a Leaf roster based on 86m cap, but the reality is all players take 20% pay cut" and nobody understands what you're saying; in fact, it looks to me like nobody even made an effort to understand what you're saying.

Thanks bud. Yea, throughout the last few months, I've read a lot about "The players won't take a cut". Where to folks think the cap number is conceived? It's not like the NHL or owners just pull the number out of their head. The cap is based on revenue and by the CBA, the players cut half of the revenue.

But I was even been optimistic that there is a "regular" season in 2020/21. I tend to agree with BCarlo25, Might not even have a regular season because leagues can't open in September. Even if the season starts will fans even attend due to social distancing.? If we headed for a recession/depression are people going to buy expensive tickets and merchandise? The NHL iteams generate their revenue from ticket sales more than other pro sports, NHL teams are going to see drastic cut in revenues.
The NHLPA isn't that strong to guarantee players salaries. Owners can fold their teams. We've seen unions which had "lifetime job security" for its members. Doesn't mean anything when the company folded or moved offshore. Last thing the majority of NHLPA members would want is to see a reduction in the total number of job.

I thought 9/11 was a maybe single occurrence that affected the lives of so many worldwide. Affected travel, how we looked at people of colour (especially Mid East people), resulted in ending occupations by foreigners and wars throughout the Middle East and beyond. But this Covid19 and it ramifications, I'm thinking it might be more life style/economic/social changing than anything I will see in my lifetime.