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Final steps of the RETOOL

Créé par: Daredevil514
Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 10 mai 2020
Publié: 10 mai 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Dont bother the AHL Lines

We could also Target a LHD via UFA like Edmundston or a similar player but only if term is short and money is reasonable. It COULD help romanov, Harris, Norlinder etc take their time to develop properly. Fleury could also fill the Juulsen spot if he cant recover. Crawford was my choice but any #2 goaltender capable of playing 25 games.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
56 500 000 $
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UFAANSCAP HIT
45 000 000 $
23 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Romanov, Alexander
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (LAK)
Détails additionnels:
4th overall, we Pick Drysdale
LAK
  1. Mete, Victor [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (STL)
Détails additionnels:
Not sure if its too much or not enough, the “moving up” trades are always hard to tell, it depends on how high the other team is on Drysdale or if they really love a guy they think they can get at 8.
2.
MTL
ANA
  1. Alzner, Karl
  2. Weal, Jordan
Détails additionnels:
Any team, Alzner is CBO
3.
MTL
ARI
  1. Lindgren, Charlie
Détails additionnels:
Waivers, trade, magic or anything just bye bye
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Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
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3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
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UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
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UFA - 2
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7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
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UFA - 6
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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UFA - 6
Romanov, Alexander
925 000 $925 000 $
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
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UFA - 2
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10 mai 2020 à 11 h 15
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so LA gets Mete and two 2nds for moving down 4-8? not worth it at all for them, sorry. going to cost you a lot more than that to move up to 4 this year.
10 mai 2020 à 11 h 20
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Drysdale fills more LA's need than let's say Rossi/Perfetti/Holtz
10 mai 2020 à 11 h 23
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LA isn't moving the #4 pick for that, Yeah Drysdale to Montreal isn't happening.
10 mai 2020 à 12 h 24
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Probably would cost only a their second round pick and probably a latwr pick 4th or 5th round. Historically this is what early first round pick trade have cost.
2005:
• 2005 first round pick (#12-Marc Staal) • 2005 second round pick (#49-Chad Denny) • 2005 seventh round pick (#207-Myles Stoesz) to Thrashers for • 2005 first round pick (#8-Devin Setoguchi) on 2005-07-30

2007:
Traded • 2007 first round pick (#13-Lars Eller) • 2007 second round pick (#44-Aaron Palushaj) • 2008 third round pick (#87-Ian Schultz) to Blues for • 2007 first round pick (#9-Logan Couture) on 2007-06-22

2004:
Traded • 2004 first round pick (#8-Alexandre Picard) • 2004 second round pick (#59-Kyle Wharton) to Blue Jackets for • 2004 first round pick (#4-Andrew Ladd) on 2004-06-26

This was the most recent top ten pick swap involved .( note that the last one is exactly the 4th overall for the 8th overall). This deal would probably happen only if Los Angeles doesn’t want a specific players and no they will have one of their guy remaining at 8th overall. But if that Happen the returns would be less then Mete and 2 second round pick.
10 mai 2020 à 13 h 9
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Kings will take Drysdale not trade away the opportunity, that’s if OTT doesn’t take him.
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10 mai 2020 à 16 h 30
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Don't see Montreal having any interest in moving up. That's a huge package to move up to 4th when they are almost guaranteed to get a steal at 6-8th.
10 mai 2020 à 19 h 17
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Don't see Montreal having any interest in moving up. That's a huge package to move up to 4th when they are almost guaranteed to get a steal at 6-8th.


Targeting Drysdale should not be an absolute priority but it still something to consider with Petry and Weber on the wrong side of 30 and Juulsen/Fleury as the best prospects in the depth chart. RHD is defenitly a need.
10 mai 2020 à 19 h 20
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Probably would cost only a their second round pick and probably a latwr pick 4th or 5th round. Historically this is what early first round pick trade have cost.
2005:
• 2005 first round pick (#12-Marc Staal) • 2005 second round pick (#49-Chad Denny) • 2005 seventh round pick (#207-Myles Stoesz) to Thrashers for • 2005 first round pick (#8-Devin Setoguchi) on 2005-07-30

2007:
Traded • 2007 first round pick (#13-Lars Eller) • 2007 second round pick (#44-Aaron Palushaj) • 2008 third round pick (#87-Ian Schultz) to Blues for • 2007 first round pick (#9-Logan Couture) on 2007-06-22

2004:
Traded • 2004 first round pick (#8-Alexandre Picard) • 2004 second round pick (#59-Kyle Wharton) to Blue Jackets for • 2004 first round pick (#4-Andrew Ladd) on 2004-06-26

This was the most recent top ten pick swap involved .( note that the last one is exactly the 4th overall for the 8th overall). This deal would probably happen only if Los Angeles doesn’t want a specific players and no they will have one of their guy remaining at 8th overall. But if that Happen the returns would be less then Mete and 2 second round pick.

Nice research! But LA is probably very high on Drysdale, thats why I tried to add more. Most of the comment still says hell no so that tells me he would be very hard to get.
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Nice research! But LA is probably very high on Drysdale, thats why I tried to add more. Most of the comment still says hell no so that tells me he would be very hard to get.


Like i said above it probably will goes down to the players LA have targeted! If they have a players they really like and they think he won’t be there at 8 they won’t make a trade even if Montreal would throw in all their pick. But if they feel they can get their guy withbthe 8 pick they would probably accept a swap for Montreal first and second round pick. But that very unlikely since this is almost never happening.
11 mai 2020 à 12 h 52
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Targeting Drysdale should not be an absolute priority but it still something to consider with Petry and Weber on the wrong side of 30 and Juulsen/Fleury as the best prospects in the depth chart. RHD is defenitly a need.


It's a need, but that doesn't mean we should trade that huge package for it.

We are 2 second round picks. We could potentially get a guy like Braden Schneider or Justin Barron. In fact, there are tons of RHD slated to go early in the 2nd round. With our first round pick, we should just go with BPA.
11 mai 2020 à 14 h 17
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It's a need, but that doesn't mean we should trade that huge package for it.

We are 2 second round picks. We could potentially get a guy like Braden Schneider or Justin Barron. In fact, there are tons of RHD slated to go early in the 2nd round. With our first round pick, we should just go with BPA.


True, its another way of thinking it. BUT,

For me this isnt a huge package, I dont think Mete is quite important, he maybe playing a lot of minutes for us because the left Side is that bad but in a lot of team he struggle to make the top 6. What does he really bring beside speed and an average transition. Cant score, cant get assists, cant hit, cant clean the front of net and have a hard time getting out with the puck in corners. He's more than expendable with Romanov, Harris, Norlinder, Strubble and Fairbrother in the farm. He can also be replaced via free agency if you cant wait for those guys to develop or if they all bust.

2nd round Pick are really overrated IMO, about 40% of them crack the NHL and about 10% have a real impact on a roster. Those numbers significantly raise when you talk about a top10 pick like Drysdale. We also had so many picks the last 2 years and again this year, giving away two of them doesnt quite hurt us espicially since we would still have a second round pick. I personnally prefer taking a chance on a real high end prospect even if we have to pay for it than draft a multitude of less talented Guy ans hope some of them become something.
11 mai 2020 à 14 h 22
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True, its another way of thinking it. BUT,

For me this isnt a huge package, I dont think Mete is quite important, he maybe playing a lot of minutes for us because the left Side is that bad but in a lot of team he struggle to make the top 6. What does he really bring beside speed and an average transition. Cant score, cant get assists, cant hit, cant clean the front of net and have a hard time getting out with the puck in corners. He's more than expendable with Romanov, Harris, Norlinder, Strubble and Fairbrother in the farm. He can also be replaced via free agency if you cant wait for those guys to develop or if they all bust.

2nd round Pick are really overrated IMO, about 40% of them crack the NHL and about 10% have a real impact on a roster. Those numbers significantly raise when you talk about a top10 pick like Drysdale. We also had so many picks the last 2 years and again this year, giving away two of them doesnt quite hurt us espicially since we would still have a second round pick. I personnally prefer taking a chance on a real high end prospect even if we have to pay for it than draft a multitude of less talented Guy ans hope some of them become something.


40% and 10% are the league average. It factors in the teams that spend 1/10th of what Montreal spends on Amateur Scouting. I'd imagine that number is significantly higher for Montreal than the average. It's not like we have to get a defensemen this year. Petry and Weber both have a few years left meaning we can wait until next year when there are more defenders available.
11 mai 2020 à 14 h 50
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40% and 10% are the league average. It factors in the teams that spend 1/10th of what Montreal spends on Amateur Scouting. I'd imagine that number is significantly higher for Montreal than the average. It's not like we have to get a defensemen this year. Petry and Weber both have a few years left meaning we can wait until next year when there are more defenders available.


Doesnt matter how they spend on scouting you just need to chek the picks to see how hard it this to pick the right guy in the 2nd round. From 2005 to 2016 (didnt count the last 3 draft because it's too soon to tell) We had 10 2nd round picks

Latendresse
Mathieu Carle
Ben Maxwell
Pk Subban
Danny Kristo
Sébastian Collberg
Dalton Thrower
Jacob de la rose
Zachary Fucale
Arthurri Lehkonen

4 of them played more than 50 games in the NHL (40%). As for having an impact for the Montreal Canadiens, Subban and Lehkonen are the only two I consider useful. We can make a case for de la rose and Latendresse but they are still bottom 6 player who finished or will finished playing outside the NHL.
2 out of then for 20%... And Lehkonen is not a star either.

We cant wait you're right but when was the last time we moved up in the first round trying to get a high end talent? Drysdale is a talent worth doing it and je would be ready in 2-3 years. Weber will be like 37 by then and maybe Petry wont even be here and if hé do, he will be 35. Not saying they wont be good anymore but they would clearly be less used to keep them efficient.
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