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The only trade I would make with Toronto

Créé par: Claesson4Norris
Date de création initiale: avr 21, 2020
Publié: Apr 21 at 3:05 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Transactions
OTT
  1. Engvall, Pierre
TOR
  1. Jaros, Christian
Rachats de contrats
  • Dion Phaneuf: 729 167 $
  • Alexandre Burrows: 0 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
OTT
NYI
SJS
OTT
CBJ
DAL
NYI
OTT
WPG
OTT
TBL
SJS
STL
2021
OTT
OTT
CBJ
SJS
OTT
COL
EDM
OTT
OTT
2022
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2781 500 000 $70 738 292 $0 $2 992 500 $10 761 708 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
OTT
MacArthur, Clarke
4 650 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 1
OTT
Anisimov, Artem
4 550 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
OTT
Ryan, Bobby
7 250 000 $
AD, AG
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
OTT
Boedker, Mikkel
4 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
OTT
Tierney, Chris
2 937 500 $
C
RFA - 1
OTT
Callahan, Ryan
5 800 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
OTT
Brown, Connor
2 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
OTT
Paul, Nicholas
750 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
OTT
Gáborík, Marián
4 875 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
OTT
Duclair, Anthony
1 650 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
OTT
White, Colin
4 750 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 6
OTT
Peca, Matthew
1 300 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
OTT
Balcers, Rūdolfs
759 167 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
OTT
Tkachuk, Brady
925 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
OTT
Sabourin, Scott
700 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
OTT
Hawryluk, Jayce
874 125 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
OTT
Reilly, Mike
1 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
OTT
Zaitsev, Nikita
4 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 5
OTT
Anderson, Craig
4 750 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 1
OTT
Borowiecki, Mark
1 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
OTT
Hainsey, Ron
3 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
OTT
Nilsson, Anders
2 600 000 $
G
UFA - 2
OTT
Wolanin, Christian
900 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
OTT
Högberg, Marcus
700 000 $
G
RFA - 2
OTT
Chabot, Thomas
863 333 $
DG
UFA - 1
OTT
Englund, Andreas
700 000 $
DG
RFA - 1

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21 avr à 15 h 36
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Nope
21 avr à 16 h 04
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Ottawa would need to add Paul and a 4th.
21 avr à 16 h 08
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Ottawa would need to add Paul and a 4th.


My point is I wouldn't make big trades with Toronto.

Also Engvall isn't meaningfully better than Paul. Both are 4th liners
21 avr à 16 h 10
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
My point is I wouldn't make big trades with Toronto.

Also Engvall isn't meaningfully better than Paul. Both are 4th liners


He's quite a bit better. I watch both teams a lot. Engvall could play 3rd line in Ottawa. Don't forget Connor Brown was also a 4th liner in Toronto.
21 avr à 16 h 14
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He's quite a bit better. I watch both teams a lot. Engvall could play 3rd line in Ottawa. Don't forget Connor Brown was also a 4th liner in Toronto.


Not a similar situation to Brown at all. Brown was a dominant offensive talent at every level before for making the NHL, and he scored 20 goals as a rookie.
21 avr à 16 h 18
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
Not a similar situation to Brown at all. Brown was a dominant offensive talent at every level before for making the NHL, and he scored 20 goals as a rookie.


Playing with Auston Matthews. Engvall gets penalty kill minutes and no power play minutes. I don't think the Leafs want to move him at all.

Besides Jaros and a 4th round pick aren't exactly big pieces.

Plus Engvall will be an RFA whereas Paul will be a UFA.
21 avr à 16 h 42
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I still have high hopes for my boy Jaros. Ottawa doesn't need anymore bottom 6 forwards. Ottawa is thin on the right side as it is with the only two possible top 4 D coming up being Thomson and JBD. Jaros slots in nicely behind those guys and would be a great offset partner to someone like Chabot or Wolanin. Sure Zub is coming, but he seems more like a low risk signing that can be traded for an asset down the road whereas Jaros seems to have more upside.
21 avr à 16 h 56
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Quoting: Green4D4Again
I still have high hopes for my boy Jaros. Ottawa doesn't need anymore bottom 6 forwards. Ottawa is thin on the right side as it is with the only two possible top 4 D coming up being Thomson and JBD. Jaros slots in nicely behind those guys and would be a great offset partner to someone like Chabot or Wolanin. Sure Zub is coming, but he seems more like a low risk signing that can be traded for an asset down the road whereas Jaros seems to have more upside.


Problem is the organization doesn't seem to have much faith in him. He played well last year, but he took a back step this year. I like him, and do think he's a 3rd pair guy, but if he doesn't factor into long term plans, why not move him?

Also Zub is only 6 months older than Jaros and has been playing a much more prominent role in the KHL than Jaros was even in the AHL. Sounds like he might walk right into 2nd pair duties. I don't see anything to suggest he has less upside than Jaros. Probably has more upside if anything.
21 avr à 17 h 55
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Playing with Auston Matthews. Engvall gets penalty kill minutes and no power play minutes. I don't think the Leafs want to move him at all.

Besides Jaros and a 4th round pick aren't exactly big pieces.

Plus Engvall will be an RFA whereas Paul will be a UFA.


Nick Paul is RFA with arbitration rights and I bet he makes less than Engvall next season. Personally I prefer bottom 6 forwards who can score AND HIT so I'll keep Nick Paul thanks.
21 avr à 18 h 37
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Quoting: TCMonkey
Nick Paul is RFA with arbitration rights and I bet he makes less than Engvall next season. Personally I prefer bottom 6 forwards who can score AND HIT so I'll keep Nick Paul thanks.


All I'm saying is that Engvall is better and younger than Paul so if the Sens wanted him they'd have to pay a lot more than Jaros whose likely an AHL player. I'm a Sens fan too but that's just the reality.

P.S. If he makes less than Engvall its not a long term deal and he will be a UFA after this contract. He can easily walk after 1 or 2 years and the Sens won't be competitors until then.

I think the Sens will be really good in 2-3 years but not before then.
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Quoting: Green4D4Again
I still have high hopes for my boy Jaros. Ottawa doesn't need anymore bottom 6 forwards. Ottawa is thin on the right side as it is with the only two possible top 4 D coming up being Thomson and JBD. Jaros slots in nicely behind those guys and would be a great offset partner to someone like Chabot or Wolanin. Sure Zub is coming, but he seems more like a low risk signing that can be traded for an asset down the road whereas Jaros seems to have more upside.


You might be high on Jaros but that doesn't bring his trade value up. Jaros doesn't have much trade value. I'd keep him if I was Ottawa.

Engvall is worth about a 3rd round pick or more.
22 avr à 9 h 44
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
All I'm saying is that Engvall is better and younger than Paul so if the Sens wanted him they'd have to pay a lot more than Jaros whose likely an AHL player. I'm a Sens fan too but that's just the reality.

P.S. If he makes less than Engvall its not a long term deal and he will be a UFA after this contract. He can easily walk after 1 or 2 years and the Sens won't be competitors until then.

I think the Sens will be really good in 2-3 years but not before then.


I agree with the 2 to 3 year projection (if the Sens don't screw it up). I also agree that it would take more than Jaros to get Engvall. But I honestly think it would benefit BOTH teams if it were to swap Engvall and Paul 1 for 1. (But OTT would likely need to sweeten it with a mid round pick or prospect due to the age difference). All of that aside, and I say this as a guy who's ALWAYS felt Nick Paul was an NHL player, with all the prospects and picks Ottawa has, in 2 or 3 years Paul might not be a lock in our line up anyway. I mean, Pinto, Balcers, Norris, L Brown, Formenton, Kastelilc, Abramov, Chlapik, Batherson, and a frightening number of high end picks over the next 2 drafts... Our bottom 6 will need to be extremely friendly contracts in order to pay our stars.
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