why does Lilz need to be in this trade, just throw in Mango 2nd 3rd

If the ducks agreed to that return manson would already be on the leafs by now

Ducks ain't moving Manson without Liljegren coming back. Their RHDs are too weak otherwise.

Do you remember when Freidman said ANA likes Manson more than his wife likes him? That's why it has to be Lilly. Personally I don't think ANA wants to move Manson at all, it is just the TOR media that is parading his name around. For me it is going to take a huge over pay to get him. If Manson gets moved, this is the deal I expect.

Manson for Kapanen, Lilly, 4th Rd Pick

Anything less and ANA's Bob Murray just holds onto the most valuable asset there is in hockey right now. A solid RHD. And if TOR is willing to give this up then they too should just hang onto Lilly, who could become a solid RHD...

Because Murray isn't dumb, Leafs want Manson Ducks want Liljegren. It's that simple.

No point in doing the trade then

Then keep lilz better off in the long run

Also if you want a DFD Martinez is avaliable for cheaper

what the ducks are asking for manson and what manson is worth are very different, people need to stop acting like all these deals arent good because the value isnt there, cause it is.

Fine, Doesn't make sense for Anaheim to deal one of their better young RHD. Without getting a similar return seeing that they're thin at RD to begin with. Only way that possibly works is if Buffalo and Anaheim can do a deal where perhaps Ristolainen heads to Anaheim then maybe Murray does it.

Exactly.

Because Anaheim doesn’t exist to help the leafs

Keeping lilz is better

Liljigren is an okay prospect. He’s not the hill i would die on if i ran the leafs.