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Tatar-PIT

Créé par: Justahockeyfan
Date de création initiale: jan 29, 2020
Publié: 29 jan à 9 h 25
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Explications
If PIT says no I dont think MTL will trade him to pens.
Transactions
MTL
  1. Addison, Calen
  2. Hållander, Filip
  3. 2020 1e round pick (PIT)
  4. 2022 6e round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Tatar, Tomas (800 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Comes with 4x5,5M Extension kicking in 2021-2022
Rachats de contrats
  • Steve Mason: 1 366 667 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Tomas Tatar: 800 000 $ (16,67%)
  • Marco Scandella: 2 000 000 $ (50%)
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: 350 000 $ (50%)
Enfoui
  • Karl Alzner: 3 550 000 $ (4 625 000 $)
  • Keith Kinkaid: 675 000 $ (1 750 000 $)
  • Matthew Peca: 225 000 $ (1 300 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
MTL
PIT
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
ANA
WPG
MTL
FLA
MTL
CHI
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
OTT
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
PIT
MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $75 140 475 $0 $3 907 500 $6 359 525 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MTL
Kovalchuk, Ilya
350 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
MTL
Danault, Phillip
3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
3 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
5 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
MTL
Domi, Max
3 150 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
863 333 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
2 400 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
2 600 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
MTL
Poehling, Ryan
925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
MTL
Thompson, Nate
1 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Weise, Dale
2 350 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
MTL
Mete, Victor
748 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
MTL
Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 7
MTL
Scandella, Marco
2 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
MTL
Petry, Jeff
5 500 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Lindgren, Charlie
750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
3 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Fleury, Cale
771 666 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
MTL
Weal, Jordan
1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
MTL
Byron, Paul
3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
MTL
Teasdale, Joël
763 333 $
C
RFA - 3
MTL
Kulak, Brett
1 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
MTL
Cousins, Nick
1 000 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1

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29 jan à 9 h 33
#1
Rejoint: oct 2019
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Yeah pitt says no, thats just to much to give up
mhockey91 et pensburgh571 a aimé ceci.
29 jan à 9 h 36
#2
Rejoint: jun 2017
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Quoting: Mathmanmatt141
Yeah pitt says no, thats just to much to give up


Funny, I was about to say that's not enough. The issue isn't where to trade Tatar, it's whether to trade Tatar. Everyone assumes he'll be traded and Domi will be kept. I think Domi will be moved as soon as the Habs are comfortable that Suzuki's future is at centre. Tatar will then get a Plekanec-type deal to grow old in Montreal, where he's appreciated and happy.
29 jan à 9 h 38
#3
ReichelMercer MTL
Rejoint: jan 2019
Messages: 348
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Hallander and 1st is enough for Tatar. Potential 70 pts guy on an average team, he would kill it in pittsburgh and everyone knows it
29 jan à 9 h 39
#4
Rejoint: oct 2019
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Quoting: HabsRafiki
Funny, I was about to say that's not enough. The issue isn't where to trade Tatar, it's whether to trade Tatar. Everyone assumes he'll be traded and Domi will be kept. I think Domi will be moved as soon as the Habs are comfortable that Suzuki's future is at centre. Tatar will then get a Plekanec-type deal to grow old in Montreal, where he's appreciated and happy.


I mean addison is are best prospect and hallander is like are 3rd best, and a 1st in a deep draft is a lot to give
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29 jan à 9 h 51
#5
redw1n9s
Rejoint: mar 2016
Messages: 1,120
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This is an absurd overpayment. You could put my mom on Crosby's wing and she would produce...why would Pit do this?
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29 jan à 9 h 54
#6
bigZ
Rejoint: jun 2019
Messages: 680
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Montreal continuing to over value tf out of Tatar. Hes a great player, but tell me this. Would you as a habs fan give up that kind of a price for Tatar??? I dont think so. That kind of return to get us someone much much better than Tatar
mhockey91 et pensburgh571 a aimé ceci.
29 jan à 10 h 04
#7
mhockey91
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Quoting: HabsRafiki
Funny, I was about to say that's not enough. The issue isn't where to trade Tatar, it's whether to trade Tatar. Everyone assumes he'll be traded and Domi will be kept. I think Domi will be moved as soon as the Habs are comfortable that Suzuki's future is at centre. Tatar will then get a Plekanec-type deal to grow old in Montreal, where he's appreciated and happy.


this is the biggest overpayment ive seen on here in a while that isn't a troll post. jeez
pensburgh571 a aimé ceci.
29 jan à 10 h 05
#8
mhockey91
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Quoting: Mathmanmatt141
Yeah pitt says no, thats just to much to give up


its not too much to give up. its wayyyyyyyyyy too much to give up
pensburgh571 a aimé ceci.
29 jan à 10 h 26
#9
Rejoint: jun 2018
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Quoting: FiveForFighting
Hallander and 1st is enough for Tatar. Potential 70 pts guy on an average team, he would kill it in pittsburgh and everyone knows it


I think these are just lame assumptions. Everyone always comes up with the same lame assumption. Oh he'll kill it next to Crosby/Malkin.
I think it's a lot harder to fit in there than people want to admit. There are many a player who couldn't do it.
On top of it look how many wingers are on the Market right now. There are at least 6-8 decent wingers on the market right now. There might be 4 teams buying.
I don't think anyone is going to get there price. At least 1/2 the playoff teams won't go in on a rental/trade.
Of those that do, I'd say 1/2 of them are looking at defense not wing.
I put it at maybe 4 teams making a real move on a winger.
That really drives the market down.
29 jan à 11 h 50
#10
Rejoint: sep 2018
Messages: 42
Mentions "j'aime": 11
In what world is Tomas Tatar, a player who has never even broke 60 points, worth more than Taylor Hall with Hall's contract 50% retained LMAO
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29 jan à 13 h 12
#11
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JustaHockeyFan79
Rejoint: avr 2018
Messages: 520
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Quoting: mhockey91
its not too much to give up. its wayyyyyyyyyy too much to give up


All you do on this page is hate on people give over and give some constructive criticism
29 jan à 16 h 31
#12
Rejoint: jun 2019
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Pittsburgh easily says no.

The Penguins are not going to give up Addison, Hallander, or a first for Tatar. Let alone all three.

A better deal would look something like

Pens 2nd
Bjorkqvist
Miletic

A deal that is as bad as the deal you offered on the other end

Pens trade a first and Poulin and receive Tatar and Suzuki. That is how far off you are.
29 jan à 22 h 02
#13
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Quoting: mhockey91
this is the biggest overpayment ive seen on here in a while that isn't a troll post. jeez


Addison is a solid defensive prospect. Hallander is on track, but he's a long way from being the breakthrough star you suggest.

Scott Wheeler (The Athletic) says:
"Hallander’s one of those rare players who can play up and down a lineup and adjust his role to his linemates. Need him to drive a third line as its best player and have the puck a lot? He can do that. Need him to play off the puck on a second line where he’s not the most talented player? He can do that. Need an energy guy who can play fast and get in on the forecheck on your fourth line? He’s well-suited for that.
29 jan à 23 h 07
#14
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Tatar wouldn't accept that contract anyways.
30 jan à 11 h 55
#15
mhockey91
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Quoting: HabsRafiki
Addison is a solid defensive prospect. Hallander is on track, but he's a long way from being the breakthrough star you suggest.

Scott Wheeler (The Athletic) says:
"Hallander’s one of those rare players who can play up and down a lineup and adjust his role to his linemates. Need him to drive a third line as its best player and have the puck a lot? He can do that. Need him to play off the puck on a second line where he’s not the most talented player? He can do that. Need an energy guy who can play fast and get in on the forecheck on your fourth line? He’s well-suited for that.


I never suggested once he'll be a breakthrough star. im just saying thats a gross overpayment. Addison and Hallander are two of our best prospects. zero chance we move all that for Tatar
30 jan à 11 h 58
#16
mhockey91
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Quoting: Justahockeyfan
All you do on this page is hate on people give over and give some constructive criticism


I give constructive criticism when a deal is at least somewhat realistic. you're out to lunch on this one. Remove Addison and Hallander and Pens can throw in a lesser prospect.
30 jan à 13 h 19
#17
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JustaHockeyFan79
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Messages: 520
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Quoting: mhockey91
I give constructive criticism when a deal is at least somewhat realistic. you're out to lunch on this one. Remove Addison and Hallander and Pens can throw in a lesser prospect.


Thanks
30 jan à 13 h 28
#18
mhockey91
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Quoting: Justahockeyfan
Thanks


I do like Tatar and can’t believe how good bergavin did with that Patches trade. Getting Suzuki and Tatar was a great return. I wish pens could’ve got that for kessel!
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