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Line shake up

Créé par: DDM
Équipe: 2019-20 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 8 janv. 2020
Publié: 8 janv. 2020
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Doing this to shake up lines. Copp on 1 st cuz he's first man in on dump in get puck to shife.
2nd line all speed Wheeler first man in get puck to KFC.
3rd line check and dump in Lowry first man in finish the check in op D man frenchy gets puck Rosy Tigger man.
4th is just there to get sustained pressure and get a shot on net that'll get you a whistle.

I like having all your dynamic forwards on the pp with Wheeler up top able to feed Liane or Ehlers. Plus he's get a bigger shot then pionk to back up defenders.

What you guys think.
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8 janv. 2020 à 14 h 42
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Switch mp85 and copp and Harkins and Bourque other than that I love it
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8 janv. 2020 à 15 h 15
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Would be stupid to break up our first line. Maybe swap ehlers to RW on 2nd line and bring coop to 2LW. Then put roslovic on 3RW and MP 3LW.
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8 janv. 2020 à 16 h 13
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What I'm trying to get outta my players would be a line like the Avs have or TO first time. 2 really really skilled guys with play making and scoring. Then a guy to get them the puck need a guy who will dig it out of the corners. And no one goes harder in there then Copp. I love KFC but let's put him back with Wheeler and his play making abilities.

Really question I got is what's the difference between Jets and the Leafs or AVS lightning
8 janv. 2020 à 16 h 21
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Quoting: DDM
What I'm trying to get outta my players would be a line like the Avs have or TO first time. 2 really really skilled guys with play making and scoring. Then a guy to get them the puck need a guy who will dig it out of the corners. And no one goes harder in there then Copp. I love KFC but let's put him back with Wheeler and his play making abilities.

Really question I got is what's the difference between Jets and the Leafs or AVS lightning


The difference is their 3C's and bottom 6's actually contribute regularly on the scoresheet while the Jets rarely do.
8 janv. 2020 à 16 h 23
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Would be stupid to break up our first line. Maybe swap ehlers to RW on 2nd line and bring coop to 2LW. Then put roslovic on 3RW and MP 3LW.


I don't know if it is, Laine looks like he's too slow to play with Scheiffele and Connor and Wheeler looks gassed and too slow to play with Ehlers and Roslovic.
8 janv. 2020 à 16 h 32
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I don't know if it is, Laine looks like he's too slow to play with Scheiffele and Connor and Wheeler looks gassed and too slow to play with Ehlers and Roslovic.


Do you think it’s worth giving roslovic the shot at 2c? I just don’t know what to do besides that. Maybe try putting the Ehlers Scheifele and Wheeler line back together? I just think that Laine and Connor should stay together. Maybe give them Roslo as their 2c. If Roslovic doesn’t work out maybe you try copp there just to see if it works. We have no other options internally.
8 janv. 2020 à 16 h 36
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Do you think it’s worth giving roslovic the shot at 2c? I just don’t know what to do besides that. Maybe try putting the Ehlers Scheifele and Wheeler line back together? I just think that Laine and Connor should stay together. Maybe give them Roslo as their 2c. If Roslovic doesn’t work out maybe you try copp there just to see if it works. We have no other options internally.


What I'd try but won't happen is Laine and Roslovic switch spots.
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You can't tell me Leafs 3 line with Spezza is better then ours. Diff uses maybe we use ours as shut down then it's meant for offensive pressure. The AVS 3rd line is nothing special at all.

As to using Rosy as 2c I'm not sure he knows enough or is strong enough yet. Id use Copp there before Rosy and keep Wheeler on right with Ehlers on 2 left. But I do agree we need more def scoring.

Does the defense match up?
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Then we lack a bit against Muzzin (but he's been out with injury)
Again it's it there 5-6 D that make the difference?
8 janv. 2020 à 17 h 15
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What I'd try but won't happen is Laine and Roslovic switch spots.


I’m not against this idea at all tbh.
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I don't know if it is, Laine looks like he's too slow to play with Scheiffele and Connor and Wheeler looks gassed and too slow to play with Ehlers and Roslovic.


If Liane is to slow why wouldn't we try.
Connor scheifele Ehlers
Liane Wheeler roslovic
8 janv. 2020 à 17 h 30
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If Liane is to slow why wouldn't we try.
Connor scheifele Ehlers
Liane Wheeler roslovic


Liane wants to be left wing anyways and Ehlers can play either
8 janv. 2020 à 19 h 49
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You can't tell me Leafs 3 line with Spezza is better then ours. Diff uses maybe we use ours as shut down then it's meant for offensive pressure. The AVS 3rd line is nothing special at all.

As to using Rosy as 2c I'm not sure he knows enough or is strong enough yet. Id use Copp there before Rosy and keep Wheeler on right with Ehlers on 2 left. But I do agree we need more def scoring.

Does the defense match up?
Morrissey Reilly
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Then we lack a bit against Muzzin (but he's been out with injury)
Again it's it there 5-6 D that make the difference?


Yes Spezza and the Leafs 3rd line is better then ours, this 3rd line shutdown nonsense is flawed logic and won't work but it's typical of a Maurice coached team. Take a look at the players the Leafs have in their bottom 6 and they're all contributing, you can't tell me anyone on the Jets 3rd line is as good as Kapanen and Gauthier who centers the Leafs 4th line is on pace for the same amount of production as Lowry is in 6 minutes less ice time a game.

All of the Avs bottom 6 players are on pace for solid production for where they are in their lineup compared to the Jets bottom 6 players. Compher and Calvert are on pace for 45 point seasons, Nieto, Bellmare and Nichushkin are on pace for 30 points and Jost is 26, all pretty typical 3rd line numbers except for Jost.
Now compare that to Copp projecting to 35, Perreault at 26 and Lowry at a measly 18 and there's the stark difference, no one else in the Jets bottom 6 is even worth comparing. I firmly believe the problem is mainly Lowry, he's just not a 3C, there's not enough offense in his game and people can tout his possession numbers all they want but if you can't score with all that offensive zone possession time you're just a waste of time, someone else with more skill has a better chance of actually scoring with that ice time. Just imagine if the Jets 3rd line guys were producing at the same rate as those other teams 3rd line's, that's likely a few more victories at least. Those teams come with at least 3 lines of offense and even their 4th lines can chip in, meanwhile the Jets have 2 lines of offense and 2 lines of wasting time, there's the difference.

The Leafs 3rd pairing is better then the Jets but that's not gonna be the difference, it's that their lineup is just better then the Jets on a whole and they play an offensive game. I see Maurice has put Harkins back in the lineup so that's good, should help a bit and the 4th line is decent now but what he should really do is make Copp the 3C and put Perreault and Harkins on the wings, that's a line that might be able to generate some offense but unfortunately Maurice actually thinks Lowry is good at hockey therefore nothing changes.
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8 janv. 2020 à 21 h 53
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What I'd try but won't happen is Laine and Roslovic switch spots.


Well you didn’t get exactly what you asked for. But you’re getting copp on the 2nd line. I like it a lot.
8 janv. 2020 à 22 h 16
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Well you didn’t get exactly what you asked for. But you’re getting copp on the 2nd line. I like it a lot.


And Lowry with the giveaway with 12 seconds left....
Yup that's the defensive stalwart the Jets just couldn't possibly live without, he is ****ing terrible!!!

All he had to do was shovel the puck over the blueline, guess ol stone hands thought he could get an empty net goal, that's about all he can score on... Lol
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And Lowry with the giveaway with 12 seconds left....
Yup that's the defensive stalwart the Jets just couldn't possibly live without, he is ****ing terrible!!!

All he had to do was shovel the puck over the blueline, guess ol stone hands thought he could get an empty net goal, that's about all he can score on... Lol


Haha I know right that was hilarious. It was also a pretty solid play by Marner to poke the puck away. Wheeler and scheifele came up huge in the shootout. Wheeler really can win draws.
8 janv. 2020 à 23 h 55
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Haha I know right that was hilarious. It was also a pretty solid play by Marner to poke the puck away. Wheeler and scheifele came up huge in the shootout. Wheeler really can win draws.


This team is terrible at closing out a game, over and over again in the last 5 minutes so many poor decisions with the puck. There were lots of times where they could've held onto the puck to kill time or pass it to keep possession but they'd just dump it and give the puck away needlessly, hardly what a playoff team looks like... Lol

Thank the hockey gawds they got the extra point!
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9 janv. 2020 à 10 h 34
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Well you didn’t get exactly what you asked for. But you’re getting copp on the 2nd line. I like it a lot.


I'd like to see Copp center his own line with Matty P and Appleton/Harkins.
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