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Créé par: TN71
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 17 juill. 2019
Publié: 17 juill. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1975 000 $
24 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
14 900 000 $
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NSH
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (CHI)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (ANA)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (SJS)
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MTL
VGK
  1. Reilly, Mike
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (CHI)
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MTL
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (COL)
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2021
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2022
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2081 500 000 $76 805 476 $0 $3 350 000 $4 694 524 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Predators de Nashville
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 5
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 7
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
748 333 $748 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
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UFA - 1

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17 juill. 2019 à 22 h 54
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Your Fav Dman is Bad
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My first thought is that Chuck Fletcher would never make the Gostisbehere trade as it would make his defense weaker while not adding equal or greater value in other areas, but then again he's been dead set on making his defense as bad as possible this offseason so who knows lol
17 juill. 2019 à 23 h 1
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My first thought is that Chuck Fletcher would never make the Gostisbehere trade as it would make his defense weaker while not adding equal or greater value in other areas, but then again he's been dead set on making his defense as bad as possible this offseason so who knows lol


How did our defense get worse?
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17 juill. 2019 à 23 h 1
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Flyers don't really need any more forwards.
17 juill. 2019 à 23 h 36
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Vegas doesn't need to trade Clarkson
17 juill. 2019 à 23 h 58
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Your Fav Dman is Bad
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How did our defense get worse?


Niskanen is washed (downward trend in his quality of play + he's 32, things don't get better from there) while Gudas is at least league average, Justin Braun is just bad, and the fact that Robert Hagg is gonna play NHL minutes for the Flyers next year is almost a criminal offence against Philadelphia. It's not the worst defense in the league, but it certainly didn't get better, and even if Gostisbehere and Provorov have good bounceback years, next year's D is likely worse than last year's.

Note: Braun and Niskanen are demonstrably mediocre to bad, as shown through sites like hockeyviz.com, evolving-hockey.com, and corsica.hockey (check them out, and then get mad at Chuck Fletcher for being bad at his job).
18 juill. 2019 à 0 h 10
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I think the preds would take the deal, unless they want to up his value this season (fingers crossed)
18 juill. 2019 à 0 h 24
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Niskanen is washed (downward trend in his quality of play + he's 32, things don't get better from there) while Gudas is at least league average, Justin Braun is just bad, and the fact that Robert Hagg is gonna play NHL minutes for the Flyers next year is almost a criminal offence against Philadelphia. It's not the worst defense in the league, but it certainly didn't get better, and even if Gostisbehere and Provorov have good bounceback years, next year's D is likely worse than last year's.

Note: Braun and Niskanen are demonstrably mediocre to bad, as shown through sites like hockeyviz.com, evolving-hockey.com, and corsica.hockey (check them out, and then get mad at Chuck Fletcher for being bad at his job).


Niskanen is still a decent possesion player, good neutral zone defender. Braun is not bad lol, via evolving wild RAPM charts, at least not defensively (just pretty bad offensively). Provy and Ghost bounce backs should definitely make the d core better, question is by how much. I also think Niskanem was brought in to be more of a veteral leader/help fix the toxic culture. Also, Hagg will very likely not be playing standard minutes next year, for sure. Hagg is god awful. Pairings should go like:
Provy-Niskanem
Sanheim-Braun
Ghost-P. Myers

Your take is bad.
18 juill. 2019 à 0 h 35
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Niskanen is still a decent possesion player, good neutral zone defender. Braun is not bad lol, via evolving wild RAPM charts, at least not defensively (just pretty bad offensively). Provy and Ghost bounce backs should definitely make the d core better, question is by how much. I also think Niskanem was brought in to be more of a veteral leader/help fix the toxic culture. Also, Hagg will very likely not be playing standard minutes next year, for sure. Hagg is god awful. Pairings should go like:
Provy-Niskanem
Sanheim-Braun
Ghost-P. Myers

Your take is bad.


I can't deny Niskanen's leadership value; he's undeniably a positive locker room presence, and in a Brooks Orpik sort of way will be a good mentor for young flyers D. Just hedge your expectations on his play; he was a shutdown defender in washington until he suddenly was the exact opposite, and while last season was his first really really really bad season, skaters don't magically improve in their age 33 seasons, so don't fool yourself into thinking that he's gonna be a Norris caliber guy for philly next year. Appreciate you embracing analytics tho to refute my Braun claim, don't see enough of that kind of discourse on here enough tbh. Also, I can't wait to see what the pairings actually are next year; your pairings make sense and are probably pretty decent, but management/coaches don't always go with what makes sense now do they lol
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18 juill. 2019 à 1 h 6
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I can't deny Niskanen's leadership value; he's undeniably a positive locker room presence, and in a Brooks Orpik sort of way will be a good mentor for young flyers D. Just hedge your expectations on his play; he was a shutdown defender in washington until he suddenly was the exact opposite, and while last season was his first really really really bad season, skaters don't magically improve in their age 33 seasons, so don't fool yourself into thinking that he's gonna be a Norris caliber guy for philly next year. Appreciate you embracing analytics tho to refute my Braun claim, don't see enough of that kind of discourse on here enough tbh. Also, I can't wait to see what the pairings actually are next year; your pairings make sense and are probably pretty decent, but management/coaches don't always go with what makes sense now do they lol


Yeah, I'm willing to admit Caps won the trade player skill wise, but Flyers did get what they sought after in the deal (leadership). I think Nisky and Braun are just decent short term stop gaps for now, as it was alluded to by Flyers beat writers that Fletcher was eyeing Spurgeon a lot. I just pray Hagg is traded or plays very, very, very minimal minutes. Dude had the worst GAR for defenders last season iirc. Also trash defensively.
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