ive always like jankrok , always seemed he should be better than he is but Nashville is loaded back there I cant see them adding krug, is that really the return youd want for him ?

way too much for carlo and mcavoy at those terms. cut the contracts almost in half.

Maybe it could be al little more, but short answer, YES. I don't want picks, I want players. I would love a top 6 RW but that means you are not saving any cap $.

I am being conservative. Essentially just wanted to illustrate there will still be a cap problem after they are signed

not when you knock 4 million off those contracts.

Heinen just got 2.8 mill, I think you are under estimating how much Carlo and McAvoy will get. You may be able to get carlo for $3.5 and Chuck for Around $5 mill, but not much less

McAvoy is a group 1 RFA. if he signs 2 years it will be real cheap. As awesome as Carlo is, find me a d man that averaged 10 points a year that got paid off his entry deal.

Unless they take a home team discount, Mcavoy will get about 5.5M on a 2 year term and Carlo about 2.6M. That's about 2M difference not 4M.

McAvoy. Is. A. Group. 1. RFA.

explain him getting 5.5 on a two year deal.

id like a top 6 winger for this team too but I think that player should be coyle unless they add someone at this point. Thats hoping Stud or Frederiks could be that 3rd line center which they probably cant be. It will be interesting whatever they do

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15E1qqh3OfHvvhbv_pICfKT7VR1jJEVhWQOyKviWLN54/edit#gid=707766415

Evolving wild has crunched the numbers.

cool. evolving wild stinks. guarantee you they have no idea what a group 1 RFA is. come up with your own reason. Why does McAvoy get that much on a 2 year deal when it's the most player friendly term, and he has zero leverage.

not sure if the numbers changed since your comment but i dont think you get mcavoy for anything less than 7 mill. and i doubt he signs for 2 years

LOL...He signed his ELC at 19 years old and it's been 3 years since, he's a group 2 RFA. Evolving wild has for the most part been within 1% with their predictions. I presented you with numbers, the onus is on you to show why you think he is worth less without spewing BS.

well, because he is still group 1. Have to play ten regular season games for the season to count towards RFA rights chief. Group 1. Is this where I'm supposed to say, "LOL?"

Also evolving wild isn't that accurate. I think they had Nylander at like 4.8 million. whoops. They had Karlsson at what? 9.5ish? nope. Duchene at under 7. They had williams signing a 3 year deal with a 9% chance of him signing for 8 years.

"In the event that an 18 year old or 19 year old Player signs an SPC with a
Club but does not play at least ten (10) NHL Games in the first season
under that SPC, the term of his SPC and his number of years in the Entry
Level System shall be extended for a period of one (1) year, except that
this automatic extension will not apply to a Player who is 19 according to
Section 9.2 by virtue of turning 20 between September 16 and December
31 in the year in which he first signs an SPC. Unless a Player and Club
expressly agree to the contrary, in the event a Player's SPC is extended an
additional year in accordance with this subsection, all terms of the SPC,
with the exception of Signing Bonuses, but including Paragraph 1 Salary,
games played bonuses and Exhibit 5 bonuses, shall be extended; provided,
however, that the Player's Paragraph 1 Salary shall be extended in all
circumstances.

He was 19 so exempt and he has a December Birthday

They were close on Zuccarello, Myers, Lee, Eberle, Myers ...all contracts around the range where Mcavoy will sign

K. But he's still a group 1. That's literally why he's group 1. Because he was 19 when he signed, he didn't have a year tacked on his entry deal, which is why he's a group 1. Everyone acknowledges this except a couple bad writers that don't know what they're talking about.

Evolving Wild (trash guesswork), has him at a .2% chance of signing a 1 year deal. A lot of group 1 RFAs sign 1 year deals. They have him at 6 years and 7 million. That doesn't say anything about a 2 year deal. A 2 year deal is a totally different world of contract negotiations.

Group 1 "Literally" mean's you're still on your ELC...McAvoy is not, he is now a group 2 RFA...Where are these plethora of people who acknowledge BS? even CapFriendly doesn't as they have him as RFA coming off his ELC...Also for Evolving Wild...try scrolling over to the right a bit and see what they project salary wise for each year term.

ah. okay. I see the problem here.
Group one, literally means that you are off your ELC. Countless resources can tell you this, but I don't think you need to go there. It is called a group 1 RFA. RFA stands for restricted free agent. There are two big examples of that this year, Boeser, and McAvoy. Both are acknowledged by all the media guys as exactly what they are, group one restricted free agents.

If group 1 RFA meant that you were still on your entry level deal, why would it be called group 1 rfa? why would it be called anything? Why wouldn't it just be called the players entry level deal?

I've got the CBA right in front of me:

Subject to subsection (c) below, the period covered by the SPC for every Rookie,
and the number of years that such Player will be in the Entry Level System and subject to the
compensation limits set out in this Article, shall be as indicated on the chart immediately below,
and during such period, the Player shall be deemed to be a "Group 1 Player":
First SPC Signing Age
Period Covered by First SPC
and Years in the Entry Level System
and Subject to Compensation Limits
18-21 3 years
22-23 2 years
24 1 year
25 and older No required number of years, not in the Entry Level
System and not subject to limits on compensation

Right, but you're looking at the wrong thing. 10.2 is what you want.

For the purposes of this Section 10.2(a), a Player aged 18 or 19 earns a
year of professional experience by playing ten (10) or more NHL Games
in a given NHL Season, and a Player aged 20 or older (or who turns 20
between September 16 and December 31 of the year in which he signs his
first SPC) earns a year of professional experience by playing ten (10) or
more Professional Games under an SPC in a given League Year

This is pretty simple stuff, and rather than run to the CBA, I think you should just check out one of the 100,000 hockey writers that have accurately said that mcavoy and boeser are not eligible for an offer sheet.

You need 3 years of accrued service to be eligible for an offer sheet.
you need 7 years of accrued service to be eligible for UFA status (or be 27 years old)
Boeser played 9 games his rookie year, so he only has two years of accrued service.
McAvoy played 6. so he only has two as well.

Neither are eligible for an offer sheet. It's just a fact man. sorry.

Dude you are so ignorant it's not even funny. Try reading the header 10.2(a) "Group 2 Players and Free agents"...this is what I've been saying all along. McAvoy is a Group 2 RFA. This is getting exhausting. Read a bit instead of saying "herrrr duurrrr everybody says that he's group 1 so it must be true" you haven't even shown me one article where somebody states that he is a group 1 RFA.

Hey man, if you want to be the guy sitting there saying 2+2=goldfish, who am I to stop you. I'll be the guy back down here on earth, knowing that it's 4. Group 1 RFA's that aren't eligible for an offer sheet aren't a new thing. General managers have acknowledged that he can't get an offer sheet. Top reporters like McKenzie have said the same. I don't really feel like doing your googling for you just because you've been dead wrong this whole time, but I googled Charlie McAvoy offer sheet and here were the top results.

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2017/04/10/why-burning-year-one-of-charlie-mcavoys-contract-isnt-a-big-deal/

https://causewaycrowd.com/2019/07/07/boston-bruins-charlie-mcavoy-leverage/

https://www.nhl.com/news/charlie-mcavoy-priority-for-boston-bruins-in-free-agency/c-308119450

(NHL.com says he can't get an offer sheet. whomp whomp.)

https://twitter.com/MattKalman/status/1145479891103752192

literally the first 5 things. was that really that hard?
Now, you were saying something about ignorance right?

Great, so the articles you just cited prove my point, congratulations...he's a group 2 RFA, that due to not having played over 40 games in his first year, is not eligible to receive an offer sheet...where in these articles does it say that he is group 1? Group1 would mean that he is still on his ELC...he is not...He received a qualifying offer from the Bruins (because he is a group 2 RFA), that as long as he doesn't sign, is free to sit out until an agreement is reached...soooo yes, you are ignorant.