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How to fix the cap

Créé par: Caniac2000
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 9 juill. 2019
Publié: 9 juill. 2019
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I am not a leafs fan I have no connection to this team, this is just glaringly obvious to me. Tell me what you think



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  1. Bogosian, Zach (2 500 000 $ retained)
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Add whatever you need to make the value fair, this is more Buffalo taking the extra cap, bad player for bad player. Bogo is a good 3RD, overpaid yes. He only has 1 year left too, it doesn't have to be Bogosian, but the alternative with Buffalo was Hunwick and I didn't think Toronto wanted to see that again.

In essence this is just to speed up the Ceci 1 year contract thing, at a reduced price. You still get all that cap for next year. What do you think?
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9 juill. 2019 à 15 h 41
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indifferent about the ceci-bogo trade.

marner getting 11.5 x 5 is absolutely insane
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9 juill. 2019 à 15 h 41
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There has to be a market for Ceci on a one year deal. Remember Justin Schultz in Edmonton?
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9 juill. 2019 à 15 h 45
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Quoting: mondo
indifferent about the ceci-bogo trade.

marner getting 11.5 x 5 is absolutely insane


so is matthews deal. That's why this is happening.
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9 juill. 2019 à 15 h 48
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That's an awful deal for marner. Dubas trades him before he thinks about signing that
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9 juill. 2019 à 15 h 52
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Quoting: Goulet
There has to be a market for Ceci on a one year deal. Remember Justin Schultz in Edmonton?


Exactly, Ceci can still become a solid puck moving defenseman.
9 juill. 2019 à 15 h 52
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so is matthews deal. That's why this is happening.


The Matthews deal wasn’t that bad. Term sucks but the cap hit is fair in my opinion.
9 juill. 2019 à 15 h 53
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so is matthews deal. That's why this is happening.


it's not. even if you think he's worth 11.5 it's a bad idea to give him 5 years.
9 juill. 2019 à 15 h 57
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The Matthews deal wasn’t that bad. Term sucks but the cap hit is fair in my opinion.


agreed. But guess what? Term is really really really important. Hence why Matthews was asking for 13.8 for an 8 year deal. 5 years at 11.634 is bonkers money. It's effectively the biggest contract signed in NHL history.
9 juill. 2019 à 15 h 57
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it's not. even if you think he's worth 11.5 it's a bad idea to give him 5 years.


soooo you agree with me? I think Matthews is worth 11.5, but giving him that over 5 years was a hilariously bad decision.
9 juill. 2019 à 16 h 0
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Marner will likely settle for 11 million over 5 years. A hometown discount would be a 6th year but that is not looking good.
Dubas set the bar and Marner wants to be treated fairly .
9 juill. 2019 à 16 h 3
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I love the people saying 8 or 9 million. He already was offered 10 million and countered with 12.5.
Dubas set the market rate and the minimum now is 11 million. Just like Mathews and Tavares
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9 juill. 2019 à 16 h 3
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soooo you agree with me? I think Matthews is worth 11.5, but giving him that over 5 years was a hilariously bad decision.


was referring to marner not being worth 11.5. i think the matthews deal should've been 6 years at least.

if i had to guess dubas purposefully gave matthews a blank check so he didn't have to deal with both of them this offseason.
9 juill. 2019 à 16 h 5
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was referring to marner not being worth 11.5. i think the matthews deal should've been 6 years at least.

if i had to guess dubas purposefully gave matthews a blank check so he didn't have to deal with both of them this offseason.


Then Marner should be doing exactly what he's been doing. I don't think either are worth 5x11.5. I think Matthews at 12 over 8 would have been fine. I think Marner at 11 over 8 is fine.

I think Marner at 10.5x5 is fair, given the matthews contract.
9 juill. 2019 à 16 h 9
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Then Marner should be doing exactly what he's been doing. I don't think either are worth 5x11.5. I think Matthews at 12 over 8 would have been fine. I think Marner at 11 over 8 is fine.

I think Marner at 10.5x5 is fair, given the matthews contract.


having matthews and marner both expire in 5 years is not a good idea. they'll both be ufa's by then.

realistically i think he gets around 10 mil for 4 years.
9 juill. 2019 à 16 h 13
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having matthews and marner both expire in 5 years is not a good idea. they'll both be ufa's by then.

realistically i think he gets around 10 mil for 4 years.


realistically, I can guarantee you that the term will not be 4 years. There isn't a snowballs chance in hell that Dubas offers four years. I think it's more likely that he retires from the NHL and plays in Russia than him getting four years.
9 juill. 2019 à 16 h 36
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soooo you agree with me? I think Matthews is worth 11.5, but giving him that over 5 years was a hilariously bad decision.


I thought so too at first. And then I thought about how long the team was without a #1 centre, and then how competitive they could be with two #1's...and I realized it was much smarter to overpay a little now for the opportunity.

Marner is another story.
9 juill. 2019 à 16 h 38
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I thought so too at first. And then I thought about how long the team was without a #1 centre, and then how competitive they could be with two #1's...and I realized it was much smarter to overpay a little now for the opportunity.

Marner is another story.


Or just hold out and get him to six 8x12.
9 juill. 2019 à 16 h 40
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realistically, I can guarantee you that the term will not be 4 years. There isn't a snowballs chance in hell that Dubas offers four years. I think it's more likely that he retires from the NHL and plays in Russia than him getting four years.


What about a 3-year deal? Keep Marner an RFA for one more round of this media circus
9 juill. 2019 à 16 h 48
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Or just hold out and get him to six 8x12.


Shorter term is smart, these guys learned from Crosby and OV's "mistakes".

9M x 5 has to be a number that neither side is happy with but both can live with.
9 juill. 2019 à 16 h 48
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What about a 3-year deal? Keep Marner an RFA for one more round of this media circus


In the 7-7.5M range, sure.
9 juill. 2019 à 16 h 51
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In the 7-7.5M range, sure.


lol
9 juill. 2019 à 16 h 51
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Shorter term is smart, these guys learned from Crosby and OV's "mistakes".

9M x 5 has to be a number that neither side is happy with but both can live with.


short term is super smart for the player. 5 years is great for the player. Every player wants 5 years. Sucks for the team though.
 
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