and ive never heard about the 2 stats youve posted, thats how relevant they are. No point in arguing though, you obviously dont want to move krug and I would rather them move him for a top 6 rw. is what it is.

You've never heard of Corsi? No disrespect, but are you a newer fan of hockey? Corsi is a pretty big stat in the NHL and a lot of teams look at it.

I have heard of corsi, ive been a fan since i was 7 in 2000. I dont get too deep into analytics. I dont think corsi correlates well to actual on ice production. I think it paints a different picture than the one we actually see play out in front of us. No scenario is the same, so i mean you have to take any analytic with a grain of salt.

Well sure, but Corsi is far more indicative of performance than +/- is. Just like CF% rel is the delta between Corsi For% while the player is on the ice vs off the ice. If you're +CF% Rel then the team generates more shots (possession) when you're on the ice. If you're a negative then they generate less.

right but to counter that +CF% Rel stat. Cassidy would draw krug/carlo into the offensive zone if there were any faceoffs there and would draw grz/whoever his rotating parter was this year in the defensive end unless it was other teams top line where mcavoy chara would go unless they had been on the ice the previous shift. So that would directly correlate to krug getting more shot chances am i wrong? would be interesting to see how many more offensive zone face offs krug took than grz and how many shots were generated from those faceoffs. I mean as i said you have different scenarios and different players that go out there for each scenario. Krug is better offensively over grzelcyk, im not arguing that. i think if all things were equal though, where grz was given similar opportunities as krug, grz stats would be significantly better.

Could it? sure, but Boston would still need to win the o-zone draw. Just to circle back on +/- for a minute. Boston was tied for the most SH goals allowed this year at 15. Now most of the time these SH goals happened when Boston was rotating and Marchand/Pasta were at the point. Krug gets a minus for the play, but it honestly wasn't his fault. Now say half of those minus we're taken off because it was out of his control (again not his fault) and Krug goes from a -2 to a +5 on the season.

What percentage of offensive draws is krug getting and how many more opportunities is he getting over grzelcyk? regardless of winning the draw the more chances you have at it the more chances you have to generate shots. +/- doesnt give the whole story, its not a great indicator at all. But, as i said im not arguing the talent of krug. He is great for what he provides, however he is only a 3rd pairing dman since he gets out matched way more often than not on defense and a pp specialist. 5.25 is too much for that now nevermind his next contract. If he can net us a top 6 forward im ecstatic with that return. Guys like karlsson, burns, giordano, reilly, yandle, carlson, hedman all top point getters pretty annually can all play defense on a top line against top line players. I would not want krug out there against anyones top 2 lines for maybe 90% of the teams we face.

Karlsson is actually not a great defender lol. Yandle had a worst +/- than Krug (if you use it) and Headman played for the of the highest scoring teams in the NHL. If you think Krug is nothing more than a 3rd pairing PP specialist, then why would a team give up a Top 6 forward for him?

Karlsson is a better player all around than krug. Yandle had a worse +/- but more production on a worse team. hedman is one of the best defenseman in hockey. I didnt say anything about +/- i just grabbed top point getters from the league. how many of them arent 1st pairing guys. I dont think krug is a top 4 defenseman, thats my opinion on it. But there are certainly people out there such as yourself that think he is. So I would rather have a top 6 forward if there was a team willing to give one up yeah.

I've actually not said anywhere that Krug is a top 4 d-man. Also Yandle played 18 more games. If Krug had played all 82 games like Yandle then he would have finished with close to 68 points.

If Krug gets the same contract as Yandle, in current dollars, then it’s 7 years at $7.1M AAV. And on the open market, he could get closer to $8M. I like Krug, but those last 3 years will probably be a problem.