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Marner

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Équipe: 2019-20 Blue Jackets de Columbus
Date de création initiale: 19 juin 2019
Publié: 19 juin 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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CBJ
  1. Marner, Mitchell [Droits de RFA]
TOR
  1. Atkinson, Cam
  2. Jenner, Boone
  3. Murray, Ryan [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (CBJ)
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19 juin 2019 à 11 h 12
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19 juin 2019 à 11 h 12
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Yeah if that's your trade offer Toronto would rather have 4 first rounders I would think.
19 juin 2019 à 11 h 13
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Jones.


Quoting: newballcoach
Yeah if that's your trade offer Toronto would rather have 4 first rounders I would think.


both bad takes! try harder boys
19 juin 2019 à 11 h 15
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I feel like every other fan base is just throwing gasoline on the fire making these marner trade proposals ….
19 juin 2019 à 11 h 17
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both bad takes! try harder boys


Not sure what you mean here? Is this a troll job or are you genuinely saying that is the best offer Toronto is going to get for Marner?
19 juin 2019 à 11 h 25
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Not sure what you mean here? Is this a troll job or are you genuinely saying that is the best offer Toronto is going to get for Marner?


Atkinson - 100 goals over the past 3 years, 33 goal seasons. 5th leading scorer on the Leafs last year and 3rd in goals. Thats big.
Murray - your 2nd best D by far
Jenner - a great 3rd line checker who plays a playoff style game, versatile and is gonna get you 30+ points, especially if he played with 1 of your talented forwards.
3rd - upgrade that to a 1st and thats a solid trade offer.

Tor is dealing from a position of 0 power. That said return above ^ is > than 4 1sts.
19 juin 2019 à 11 h 40
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Quoting: Jeff_Fingers_Agnet04
I feel like every other fan base is just throwing gasoline on the fire making these marner trade proposals ….


And they've all forgotten about the other 8 RFAs that are also not signed and waiting on Offer sheets, Tkachuck, Beoser, Rantanen, Mier, Liane, Conner, LeBlanc etc etc. So please OS Marners at 11/12 so we can the OS Liane or any of the above
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19 juin 2019 à 11 h 46
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And they've all forgotten about the other 8 RFAs that are also not signed and waiting on Offer sheets, Tkachuck, Beoser, Rantanen, Mier, Liane, Conner, LeBlanc etc etc. So please OS Marners at 11/12 so we can the OS Liane or any of the above


If I am any of those players I am waiting for marner to get overpaid then adjust their demands around that …. hes going to make a lot more people then just himself a very rich man

QUESTION: if the leafs get 4 1st in compensation can they use those picks to OS someone else or do the picks need to be property of the same team ?
19 juin 2019 à 11 h 50
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Quoting: Jeff_Fingers_Agnet04
If I am any of those players I am waiting for marner to get overpaid then adjust their demands around that …. hes going to make a lot more people then just himself a very rich man

QUESTION: if the leafs get 4 1st in compensation can they use those picks to OS someone else or do the picks need to be property of the same team ?


Need to be there own picks, which they have, OS can't be signed till July 1 so picks start with 2020
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19 juin 2019 à 13 h 42
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Atkinson - 100 goals over the past 3 years, 33 goal seasons. 5th leading scorer on the Leafs last year and 3rd in goals. Thats big.
Murray - your 2nd best D by far
Jenner - a great 3rd line checker who plays a playoff style game, versatile and is gonna get you 30+ points, especially if he played with 1 of your talented forwards.
3rd - upgrade that to a 1st and thats a solid trade offer.

Tor is dealing from a position of 0 power. That said return above ^ is > than 4 1sts.


a) Your return sucks, Murray doesn't help the Leafs at all and they don't need Atkinson. Everyone in the world has the Leafs looking for RHD except you, what does that tell you?
b) Toronto has all the power. If a team wants Marner they need to either offer sheet him at 4 firsts or make Toronto a trade worth as much or more than that. If Marner doesn't like their offer he can sit out a year and go through the EXACT same process a year later, when he has earned no money for the last 12 months. I don't see why Toronto would panic and trade him at 25 cents on the dollar.
19 juin 2019 à 13 h 50
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Quoting: newballcoach
a) Your return sucks, Murray doesn't help the Leafs at all and they don't need Atkinson. Everyone in the world has the Leafs looking for RHD except you, what does that tell you?
b) Toronto has all the power. If a team wants Marner they need to either offer sheet him at 4 firsts or make Toronto a trade worth as much or more than that. If Marner doesn't like their offer he can sit out a year and go through the EXACT same process a year later, when he has earned no money for the last 12 months. I don't see why Toronto would panic and trade him at 25 cents on the dollar.


Murray doesnt help the leafs tears of joy yeah okay buddy
They don't need more goals? - said no one ever
RHD or LHD, LEAFS NEED D tears of joy

No one is letting Marner sit out a year, hes getting traded or getting an OS before that.

$8,454,872-$10,568,589:
2 1sts , 2nd, 3rd

^ Marner is worth 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3rd ALL DAY long.
19 juin 2019 à 13 h 52
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Murray doesnt help the leafs tears of joy yeah okay buddy
They don't need more goals? - said no one ever
RHD or LHD, LEAFS NEED D tears of joy

No one is letting Marner sit out a year, hes getting traded or getting an OS before that.

$8,454,872-$10,568,589:
2 1sts , 2nd, 3rd

^ Marner is worth 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3rd ALL DAY long.


and before you come at me with the "4 firsts" who says hes getting offer sheeted for 7 years? Someone can offer him less years to pay less draft capital
19 juin 2019 à 14 h 2
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Quoting: gregb569
and before you come at me with the "4 firsts" who says hes getting offer sheeted for 7 years? Someone can offer him less years to pay less draft capital


Of course they can. And then the Leafs would match. That's the beauty of restricted free agency. And my point was not that he was sitting out, my point was that the Leafs have more leverage then the "ZERO LEVERAGE" that you stated.

The Leafs don't need to add offensive defencemen, they need guys who are better in their own zone. Toronto was 4th in goals scored and 12th in goals allowed last year (to use simple stats) and their goaltender had an exceptional year, they likely should have been worse. So no, they don't need more goals they need more help defensively.

I know that you think your trade is good and want to defend it, but it isn't what the Leafs would want, so therefore it's not good for them.
19 juin 2019 à 14 h 17
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Of course they can. And then the Leafs would match. That's the beauty of restricted free agency. And my point was not that he was sitting out, my point was that the Leafs have more leverage then the "ZERO LEVERAGE" that you stated.

The Leafs don't need to add offensive defencemen, they need guys who are better in their own zone. Toronto was 4th in goals scored and 12th in goals allowed last year (to use simple stats) and their goaltender had an exceptional year, they likely should have been worse. So no, they don't need more goals they need more help defensively.

I know that you think your trade is good and want to defend it, but it isn't what the Leafs would want, so therefore it's not good for them.


how're they going to come up with 10.4m? out of their ass?
19 juin 2019 à 14 h 20
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Not to mention this trade doesn’t get TML out of a tough cap spot
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Not to mention this trade doesn’t get TML out of a tough cap spot


Exactly. It even adds.
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19 juin 2019 à 14 h 32
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how're they going to come up with 10.4m? out of their ass?


Atkinson and Jenner make 9.5 combined. Murray isn't going to play for less than a mill.

So you don't think they can come up with 10.5, but you think they can come up with more then that for your players??? Nice try tex, just admit it's a bad trade and let's have a day.
 
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