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Huge Vegas and Tampa trade Is it enough

Créé par: BigDog91
Équipe: 2019-20 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 13 juin 2019
Publié: 13 juin 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
77 000 000 $
32 000 000 $
54 000 000 $
53 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
BUF
  1. Karlsson, William [Droits de RFA]
  2. Miller, Colin
Détails additionnels:
I believe sabres 7th overall is worth more then karlsson. Then Nelson, sheary and asplund for miller.
VGK
  1. Asplund, Rasmus
  2. Nelson, Casey
  3. Sheary, Conor (1 000 000 $ retained)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (BUF)
2.
BUF
  1. Callahan, Ryan
  2. Miller, J.T.
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (TBL)
3.
BUF
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (MTL)
4.
BUF
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (OTT)
OTT
  1. Girgensons, Zemgus [Droits de RFA]
  2. Sobotka, Vladimír
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2019 (BUF)
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Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2021
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2183 000 000 $78 799 166 $0 $5 532 500 $4 200 834 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 8
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
767 500 $767 500 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 650 000 $3 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
3 875 000 $3 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 387 500 $3 387 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
864 166 $864 166 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
UFA - 1

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13 juin 2019 à 12 h 6
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? For Risto? You can't be serious.
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13 juin 2019 à 12 h 21
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Quoting: EK652Tampa
? For Risto? You can't be serious.


Risto is worth more then miller. He almost had more points then him on a bad team. And then it will cost you to get rid of Callahan. I think it is very fair trade.
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13 juin 2019 à 12 h 26
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7th OA plus a bunch of crap for Karlsson and Miller eh?

-8th D
-undersized, average 3rd liner Vegas has no room for, with 1 year left
-mediocre prospect

No...
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13 juin 2019 à 12 h 32
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Quoting: MGK
7th OA plus a bunch of crap for Karlsson and Miller eh?

-8th D
-undersized, average 3rd liner Vegas has no room for, with 1 year left
-mediocre prospect


Wat is karsslon is he 40 goal scorer or 20 goals 60 points. No one knows he came out of nowhere with huge season and then had average season and will expect to be paid like a 40 goal scorer. You can’t afford him. And he isn’t worth the 7th overall pick alone. Miller was healthy scratch. It is fair value.
13 juin 2019 à 12 h 42
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Quoting: BigDog91
Wat is karsslon is he 40 goal scorer or 20 goals 60 points. No one knows he came out of nowhere with huge season and then had average season and will expect to be paid like a 40 goal scorer. You can’t afford him. And he isn’t worth the 7th overall pick alone. Miller was healthy scratch. It is fair value.


No it’s not. You are thinking future when VGK is in the now. What we know Karlsson is, is a top 6 forward that is our best penalty killer. We have aspirations to hoist the cup next year, this does nothing for that
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13 juin 2019 à 12 h 44
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Quoting: BigDog91
Wat is karsslon is he 40 goal scorer or 20 goals 60 points. No one knows he came out of nowhere with huge season and then had average season and will expect to be paid like a 40 goal scorer. You can’t afford him. And he isn’t worth the 7th overall pick alone. Miller was healthy scratch. It is fair value.


They sure as hell can and will afford him rather than giving him away for a pick and scraps. I'd sooner trade Marchessault or Smith than let him go over a 7 million cap hit.

'Wat is Karlsson?' - he's the guy you're desperate to get locked up for 7 years x 7m!
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13 juin 2019 à 12 h 53
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Quoting: BigDog91
Risto is worth more then miller. He almost had more points then him on a bad team. And then it will cost you to get rid of Callahan. I think it is very fair trade.


Depends what you value. Most teams would rather have a forward they can throw anywhere in their line up then a defensive liability. Also Cally makes 4.5 mill on his last year cap hit 5.8 mill, so he's not going to be as hard to move as people are making it to be if tampa retains salary. Doubt Breezy Boss takes this route.
13 juin 2019 à 13 h 35
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Vegas declines, plus it looks like Wild Bill is about to sign a long term extension with the Knights, He is purchasing a multi million $$ home in Summerlin
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13 juin 2019 à 13 h 45
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Depends what you value. Most teams would rather have a forward they can throw anywhere in their line up then a defensive liability. Also Cally has a cap hit of 4.5 mill his last year not 5.8 mill, so he's not going to be as hard to move as people are making it to be. Doubt Breezy Boss takes this route.


You are not very smart. His salary is 4.5 and his cap hit is still 5.8 and it will cost you to get rid of him.
13 juin 2019 à 14 h 3
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7th overall is not enough for Wild Bill. If Buffalo made that offer sheet they would have give up 2 1st, a 2nd, & a 3rd. Even if Buffalo become a playoff team next year, those picks are worth more than the 7th overall.
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13 juin 2019 à 14 h 10
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Quoting: Chips_n_beer
Vegas declines, plus it looks like Wild Bill is about to sign a long term extension with the Knights, He is purchasing a multi million $$ home in Summerlin


That's great news. They can't announce any extensions over 6m without the new cap number in place.
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13 juin 2019 à 14 h 10
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Quoting: BigDog91
You are not very smart. His salary is 4.5 and his cap hit is still 5.8 and it will cost you to get rid of him.


I want no part of Risto, I personally value Miller more than Risto since Risto, a defenceman, cannot play defence and Miller put up close to 50 points in 75 games in a bottom 6 role. Miller can play anywhere in a lineup, if Risto is in your top 4 your gonna give up a lot of goals against. He is more of a PP QB and 3rd pair guy getting paid like a top end second pair. His contract is not good.
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13 juin 2019 à 14 h 14
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Stop that Risto madness. We don't want him. Period.
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13 juin 2019 à 14 h 41
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Quoting: MGK
That's great news. They can't announce any extensions over 6m without the new cap number in place.


They should have the cap set by the 21st, It sounds like they will get Wild Bill locked down right afterwards, then knowing what moves they will need to make on draft day
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13 juin 2019 à 17 h 29
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Quoting: MGK
7th OA plus a bunch of crap for Karlsson and Miller eh?

-8th D
-undersized, average 3rd liner Vegas has no room for, with 1 year left
-mediocre prospect

No...


The 7th OA player will likely be better than Wild Bill. Nelson is a solid 3rd pairing guy who is cheap. Asplund is a great center prospect, not mediocre.
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13 juin 2019 à 18 h 6
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Quoting: Skyraider112
The 7th OA player will likely be better than Wild Bill. Nelson is a solid 3rd pairing guy who is cheap. Asplund is a great center prospect, not mediocre.


Yeah maybe Dach or whoever it is will be - in 3-4 years! Awful trade for Vegas, so keep your amazing pick, great prospect and solid 3rd pairing guy. These are magic beans to a team that wants to win now.
 
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