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Cap dumps for picks

Créé par: TheWolfe
Équipe: 2019-20 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 1 mai 2019
Publié: 13 juin 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I've gone through several combinations and permutations of this idea...

Basically what I'm proposing is plucking the low hanging fruit from teams who could use cap relief. I tried my best to structure these deals as win-wins for both sides. The teams dumping contracts get some cap flexibility, Wings get more picks while not taking on any long term deals, and neither side really has to give up much to get it done.

If you think my asking price on some of these guys is high in DET's end, remember that the wings don't HAVE to take on any of these deals. Late 6th round picks for bad contracts, even if they're expiring, don't move the needle for me.

If you care why I chose these 3 players:

Kulikov is a #6 D man in Winnipeg making more than Josh Morrissey. Jets have plenty of UFAs and RFAs they'd probably like to keep around, and $4.3 mil in cap space would go a long way to helping them do that. They don't have many picks this year, so I'd ask for a 2020 3rd for an early 2019 5th to take on his deal. The sad thing is, our left side is so awful he may slot in as a #4 D man on this team...

Ganger is an aging vet who's game has dropped off pretty hard. He's got 1 year left on a deal worth a little over 3 mil and I bet the oil can find a better way to use that money. By trading them our 4th round pick for the Islanders 4th round pick, Edmonton would only move back from 85 to 97th. Seems like a small price to pay for a team that finished in the bottom of a weak Pacific with a capped out roster.

This is where it gets interesting to me: I would try to flip Ganger to a team that needed bottom six help at a heavy discount. I'd retain at least $1.5 mil and ask for a later but still relevant pick in return. Florida seemed like the best fit. They need bottom six forward help (when Riley Shehan is your #3 center, you have problems, ask me how I know) and aren't in cap trouble. They also have a load of 4th round picks. I'd ask for theirs first, but I'd also take any of the ones they own. Philly just paid a 5th just to TALK to Kevin Hayes...I feel like this is a fair ask.

Vegas is in cap hell and they know it. Haula seemed like the easiest one to deal and, unless things change rapidly next year, the Wing's 2020 4th shouldn't be too far off the Knight's 2019 3rd.

As far as the UFA signings, I'd bring back Whitter plus Kronner and Vanek for another year as depth pieces in case of injury. That way we can bring kids up when we want to, not when we need to. Beauty of this plan is in 2020, you have over $25 mil coming off the books leaving plenty of cap space to sign our RFAs and maybe even a couple UFAs. I think this would also put us in pretty good shape for the expansion draft.
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13 juin 2019 à 10 h 49
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Haula and/or eakin are for sure gone but teams like detroit should go after someone like tuch because hes the only top 6 F on the team without some type of clause in his contract (WK not included because hes unsigned) so it might help vegas
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Haula and/or eakin are for sure gone but teams like detroit should go after someone like tuch because hes the only top 6 F on the team without some type of clause in his contract (WK not included because hes unsigned) so it might help vegas


Its a fair point but I feel like the Wings are finally embracing a full rebuild, so they probably wouldn't be willing to give up much in the way of assets. And though Vegas needs the flexibility, I think the price on Tuch would still be too high
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Its a fair point but I feel like the Wings are finally embracing a full rebuild, so they probably wouldn't be willing to give up much in the way of assets. And though Vegas needs the flexibility, I think the price on Tuch would still be too high


But I would still expect any team to do their due diligence and check in on everyone on vegas, and detroit has picks to spare to say the least
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@TheWolfe Alex Steen, and a 3rd Round Pick, and a 4th Round Pick. (one for 2019, and the other from 2020) sound any good. (Keep in mind Steen would be retained.
13 juin 2019 à 11 h 25
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@TheWolfe Alex Steen, and a 3rd Round Pick, and a 4th Round Pick. (one for 2019, and the other from 2020) sound any good. (Keep in mind Steen would be retained.


You have my attention, for what in return? Or is that our 3rd and our 4th?
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You have my attention, for what in return? Or is that our 3rd and our 4th?


Probably like a late round pick. 6th/7th Rounder I would say.
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Probably like a late round pick. 6th/7th Rounder I would say.


I'd pull the trigger on that. 2019 4th and 2020 5th going the other way? Especially if you retain at least $2.5 mil
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I'd pull the trigger on that. 2019 4th and 2020 5th going the other way? Especially if you retain at least $2.5 mil


Yeah

St. Louis Blues 2019 6th Round Pick

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Alexander Steen (2.5M Retained)
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13 juin 2019 à 12 h 6
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Yeah

St. Louis Blues 2019 6th Round Pick

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Another swede on the wings suprise suprise
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Another swede on the wings suprise suprise


I think we need to dump Steen. We have Kyrou coming up, and I personally would like to keep Maroon as a grinding type forward for us.
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I think we need to dump Steen. We have Kyrou coming up, and I personally would like to keep Maroon as a grinding type forward for us.


We just might not have space I feel we lose fabbri before steen
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We just might not have space I feel we lose fabbri before steen


Fabbri is on a 900K Contract, and Steen is on a 5M contract. I think Fabbri wouldn't put a dent in the cap space like getting rid of Alex Steen would.
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We just might not have space I feel we lose fabbri before steen


Now Edmundson might be out the door as well.
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Now Edmundson might be out the door as well.


Maybe, I might give him 1 more year
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Now Edmundson might be out the door as well.


You guys are closer to the cap than I thought but i wouldn't start the fire sale just yet. But If you put that Steen offer in front of me, I'm clicking yes
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You guys are closer to the cap than I thought but i wouldn't start the fire sale just yet. But If you put that Steen offer in front of me, I'm clicking yes


I'm saying start a fire sale. I'm saying sell the guys we don't need. We have a plethora of Prospects who can take spots. Reinke can take Bortuzzo's spot. Jordan Kyrou can take Alexander Steen's spot. Dominik Bokk, and Klim Kostin could also steal a couple winger spots. And with guys Sanford MacEachern Fabbri in the lineups it's time to get rid of a few guys. Carl Gunnarsson, Jay Bouwmeester, Robert Bortuzzo, Mitch Reinke, Mikkola, and Walman. That's a plethora of guys to take into consideration. I would much rather go with the cheaper, quicker, younger guys who have fire rather than older, and more cap consuming contracts. Which is another reason I feel Jake Allen needs to go Evan Fitzpatrick, and Ville Husso are more than ready to take the back role for Jordan Binnington.
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I'm saying start a fire sale. I'm saying sell the guys we don't need. We have a plethora of Prospects who can take spots. Reinke can take Bortuzzo's spot. Jordan Kyrou can take Alexander Steen's spot. Dominik Bokk, and Klim Kostin could also steal a couple winger spots. And with guys Sanford MacEachern Fabbri in the lineups it's time to get rid of a few guys. Carl Gunnarsson, Jay Bouwmeester, Robert Bortuzzo, Mitch Reinke, Mikkola, and Walman. That's a plethora of guys to take into consideration. I would much rather go with the cheaper, quicker, younger guys who have fire rather than older, and more cap consuming contracts. Which is another reason I feel Jake Allen needs to go Evan Fitzpatrick, and Ville Husso are more than ready to take the back role for Jordan Binnington.


Wings might take a flyer on Allen given our goalie situation
 
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