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Avs Perspective from Pens Trade

Créé par: Coleharborcrosby
Équipe: 2019-20 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 13 mai 2019
Publié: 13 mai 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
AVS perspective of blockbuster Pens trade
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/223897&post_id=850637

Can speculate how they would fill out the rest of their roster. Still have over 8M in cap space to work with.

I have them drafting Kaliyev at 16 and Knight at 21. They could also try and package those picks and move back up but this is supposed to be a deep draft and they would be getting a franchise goalie and one of the drafts best goal scorers. IMO the 4th OA pick is expendable for them because they are now officially in win now mode and their core is set with Mackinnon, Landeskog, Rantanen, Kessel, Barrie and Makar. This trade honestly just makes a lot of sense for both teams.

I would throw money at Kevin Hayes or Brock Nelson in FA after this as well.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
44 250 000 $
44 250 000 $
89 500 000 $
33 250 000 $
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1850 000 $
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66 000 000 $
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Knight, Spencer
3925 000 $
Kaliyev, Arthur
3925 000 $
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COL
  1. Jarry, Tristan
  2. Kessel, Phil
  3. Määttä, Olli
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (PIT)
PIT
  1. Cole, Ian
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (OTT)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 000 000 $78 882 986 $0 $3 532 500 $4 117 014 $

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AG, C
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UFA - 6
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885 833 $885 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C
UFA - 1
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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6 800 000 $6 800 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 4
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
C, AG
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
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UFA - 2
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
G
UFA - 2
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3 333 225 $3 333 225 $
DG
UFA - 3
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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13 mai 2019 à 19 h 35
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Im afraid kerfoot/jost has to go to pittsburgh in this deal
13 mai 2019 à 19 h 41
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Im afraid kerfoot/jost has to go to pittsburgh in this deal


Really? As a Pens fan I would be alright with this deal as is. Jarry isn't needed because we have Murray. Maatta-Cole swap is fine with me and getting the 4OA pick for Kessel + 21 will be worth it if the Pens get Bowen Byram. I think its a win-win for both teams.
13 mai 2019 à 19 h 42
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Really? As a Pens fan I would be alright with this deal as is. Jarry isn't needed because we have Murray. Maatta-Cole swap is fine with me and getting the 4OA pick for Kessel + 21 will be worth it if the Pens get Bowen Byram.


I dont see the need with petterson and dumoulin, maybe podkolzin would be a great pickup to play with malkin?
13 mai 2019 à 19 h 45
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I dont see the need with petterson and dumoulin, maybe podkolzin would be a great pickup to play with malkin?


Im not big on Petterson at all I think his ceiling is a bottom pairing dman. Byram wouldn't play till the year after but hes a cornerstone player IMO. Plus Schultz is probably gone after this year as well unless he takes a pay cut.
13 mai 2019 à 19 h 46
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Quoting: ChampEddy
Im not big on Petterson at all I think his ceiling is a bottom pairing dman. Byram wouldn't play till the year after but hes a cornerstone player IMO. Plus Schultz is probably gone after this year as well unless he takes a pay cut.


Addison can always takeover and you use stop gaps on the bottom pair like any other team
13 mai 2019 à 19 h 51
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Addison can always takeover and you use stop gaps on the bottom pair like any other team


Yeah Addison will hopefully be ready for NHL by then. He`s similar to Schultz I think that was the idea behind drafting him. But Byram will step right in next year and be an elite Dman for 15 years. I think hes that good and a lot of people agree. 2020 D could look like Dumo-Letang
Byram-Gudbranson Cole-Petterson/Addison
13 mai 2019 à 21 h 52
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Avs hang up, pretty simple there
13 mai 2019 à 22 h 3
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Avs hang up, pretty simple there


Most people seem to think the other way around. I think its pretty fair and benefits both teams.
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Quoting: ChampEddy
Most people seem to think the other way around. I think its pretty fair and benefits both teams.


so one guy in Ragsandbluesfan commenting on it is most people... Yeah I dont think so bud

The 4th is too valuable, Cole is the perfect depth Dman who is a big cog on the Avs blue line, who hated his last season with the Pens with how they treated him. No way he wants to go back there.

Jarry is a busted Goalie Prospect and Määttä sucks and Avs have 0 interest in those pieces. So it comes down is the 4th and Cole for Kessel and the 21st. I would 100 times out of a 100 keep the 4th and Cole
13 mai 2019 à 23 h 47
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Terrible for the Avs. Maybe if it's the 16th overall I'd do it.
14 mai 2019 à 0 h 8
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so one guy in Ragsandbluesfan commenting on it is most people... Yeah I dont think so bud

The 4th is too valuable, Cole is the perfect depth Dman who is a big cog on the Avs blue line, who hated his last season with the Pens with how they treated him. No way he wants to go back there.

Jarry is a busted Goalie Prospect and Määttä sucks and Avs have 0 interest in those pieces. So it comes down is the 4th and Cole for Kessel and the 21st. I would 100 times out of a 100 keep the 4th and Cole


Most people Ive talked to about the idea. But I agree with the Cole thing. Maatta doesnt suck thats just people ganging up on him here. Disagree with Jarry too. He`s not a deal breaker in this trade but its a nice piece. He would be a cheap backup goalie with upside. And the idea is at 21 they get their franchise goalie anyways. While also adding Kessel, who is premier scorer at 6.8M per year. A player at 4 overall isn't going to make an impact like Kessel will for a few years. Avs should be all in while their core is young and in their prime. I think if you look at the big picture the Avs get a pretty damn good deal.

What if it was Zadorov or a defensive prospect and 4th for Kessel, 21st, Maatta, Jarry and a decent prospect? I don`t think the value was far off but If I was Pens I`d throw in another piece to get it done if needed.
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Terrible for the Avs. Maybe if it's the 16th overall I'd do it.


That's ridiculous
 
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