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Being Realistic

Créé par: handsomeIAN
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 10 mai 2019
Publié: 10 mai 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Dealt Zaitsev to the Stars. People say you won't get anything back for him, but the thing is, you would; anyone who would trade for him thinks he is a Top4D and is going to expect to pay something for him. A mid-level prospect and a mid-round pick seems fair.
Dumped Marleau in Ottawa, paid them some picks and got DeMelo back. DeMelo is actually good and has been for years but who knows if OTT knows that and he's still a little old to really fit into a rebuild (or what GMs tend to think rebuild time frames are). Why does OTT want Marleau? After July 1st bonus is paid, he saves Melnyk $5M in real money below the cap floor.
Brown to EDM seems like a no-brainer (EDM's modis operandi) and Benning is actually pretty good at 5v5 but they probably don't know that.
Heed is cheap and a good D at 5v5, where he'll be playing.
As for Thornton, I had some cap money left over and figured why not upgrade on Gauthier, our worst remaining forward? SJS has a nightmarish cap situation next season and definitely can't spare this kind of cash for old Joe, who was still quite good this year, if they want to be in on Karlsson. Even then they may not be able to take him. I'd consider going higher on him, too.
Petan, I looked at his stats and though I philosophically prefer him to Gauthier, he wasn't all that so I figured let him show something with the Marlies.
And there you have: nothing fancy, but a considerably better squad by committee with a better cap outlook going forward, even suffering the major loss of the team's best defenceman, Jake Gardiner.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
89 790 000 $
43 700 000 $
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21 200 000 $
13 500 000 $
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TOR
  1. Mascherin, Adam
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (DAL)
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  1. Marleau, Patrick
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (TOR)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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10 mai 2019 à 15 h 56
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Well, it's either that, or lose the player.


Fine, then I'd trade him or take the compensation.
10 mai 2019 à 15 h 58
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Fine, then I'd trade him or take the compensation.


that would be awesome from my perspective.
10 mai 2019 à 16 h 4
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Zaitsev has 5 years left. Can you name a historical cap dump deal that happened with this kind of term left? I can't.
You wouldn't trade him to a team with a "solid" RHD side. You'd trade him to one that has no one there but an injured Stephen Johns, plenty of cap room and a window they perceive as closing. So the Stars make sense. Reiterate: anyone trading for him necessarily believes he is a top4 player. It doesn't matter what the Leafs think of him. It matters what the other team thinks. Maybe no one out there wants him, but if they don't he's not moving. Not as a cap dump, unless the Leafs are throwing top prospects and 1st rounders into it. It cost Teuvo Teravainen+ to to dump two years of injured Bryan Bickell. The price to "dump" Zaitsev is prohibitive.


John Klingberg probably isn't happy with you right now...
10 mai 2019 à 16 h 7
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John Klingberg probably isn't happy with you right now...


Stars could always be smarter about this and go hard after Erik Karlsson.
10 mai 2019 à 16 h 25
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ANA has an internal cap, so I mentioned them. They also seem pretty dumb so who knows, maybe they think Marleau is good. Lou is the one that signed him and has the cap space. It was stupid to sign him then so I wouldn't rule out him acquiring him now. NYR, I'm not sure what they will be doing. I think that you can rebuild teams pretty quick but if they were looking to tank they could be a floor team. Unlikely though, I agree they're probably hunting. OTT is the best fit really.
I don't think it makes sense for ARZ.


Wowzer. "Anaheim seems pretty dumb".

Things that YOUR GM/Management team did that probably weren't that great:
SIGNED NIKITA ZAITSEV TO A 6 YEAR DEAL.

THEY ALSO OVERPAID AND SIGNED PATRICK MARLEAU TO A 3 YEAR DEAL. (Side note: If all of us knew 3 years ago when they signed him that they'd be putting themselves in cap trouble, how did your management team, which is CLEARLY smarter than anyone in rinky dink old SoCal, not see this coming?).

THEY ALSO WAITED OUT NYLANDER AND STILL OVERPAID HIM.

It took them picking in the top 8 3 years in a row (And 4 out of 5 if we consider Rielly...) to amass any talent whatsoever, and they lucked out with a ping pong ball to get Auston Matthews. Congrats to what is clearly a management team that is far superior to everyone else. Interesting and fun fact: The one year that they didn't pick in the top half of the draft, they took Freddy Gauthier (The Ducks took Shea Theodore 6 picks later).

Bad things Bob Murray has done: Sign Perry super long term.

Sign Kesler super long term.

Good things Bob Murray has done: Had a team that won the Pacific 5 years in a row. Signed Rakell to one of the most team friendly deals in the league. Signed Kase to an extremely team friendly deal. Drafted Comtois in the second round. Drafted a pretty significant group of prospects without picking in the top half of the draft (Steel, Larsson, Comtois, Terry, Olivier-Groulx, Morand, Lundestrom, Mahura).
10 mai 2019 à 16 h 55
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Wowzer. "Anaheim seems pretty dumb".

Things that YOUR GM/Management team did that probably weren't that great:
SIGNED NIKITA ZAITSEV TO A 6 YEAR DEAL.

THEY ALSO OVERPAID AND SIGNED PATRICK MARLEAU TO A 3 YEAR DEAL. (Side note: If all of us knew 3 years ago when they signed him that they'd be putting themselves in cap trouble, how did your management team, which is CLEARLY smarter than anyone in rinky dink old SoCal, not see this coming?).

THEY ALSO WAITED OUT NYLANDER AND STILL OVERPAID HIM.

It took them picking in the top 8 3 years in a row (And 4 out of 5 if we consider Rielly...) to amass any talent whatsoever, and they lucked out with a ping pong ball to get Auston Matthews. Congrats to what is clearly a management team that is far superior to everyone else. Interesting and fun fact: The one year that they didn't pick in the top half of the draft, they took Freddy Gauthier (The Ducks took Shea Theodore 6 picks later).

Bad things Bob Murray has done: Sign Perry super long term.

Sign Kesler super long term.

Good things Bob Murray has done: Had a team that won the Pacific 5 years in a row. Signed Rakell to one of the most team friendly deals in the league. Signed Kase to an extremely team friendly deal. Drafted Comtois in the second round. Drafted a pretty significant group of prospects without picking in the top half of the draft (Steel, Larsson, Comtois, Terry, Olivier-Groulx, Morand, Lundestrom, Mahura).


I was maybe the harshest critic of GM Lou in Toronto and roundly called him out for signing Marleau, who I claimed was a 3rd line winger at the time he signed and only going to get worse. I also thought the Zaitsev deal was excessive in term. I hated pretty much everything he's done and think he's a bad GM.
ANA employed Randy Carlyle for how long? Carlyle is the worst and most damaging coach you could employ in the league. I don't think their player moves have been especially good or bad for the league average, but hiring/not firing Randy shows a real dearth of judgment.
I like Kase a lot and said that he's probably elite 3 years ago.
Almost all teams are bad at mgmt. Only a few have recently gotten good to decent at it (CAR for awhile now, maybe TBL, COL lately, maybe TOR *fingers crossed, possibly NJD) and the rest are bad and a few are actively hurting themselves (ex: Chiarelli, Holland, Lou, Lombardi, Bowman, Tallon, Fenton has been a wrecking ball lately).
Don't take a personal if I say ANA "is probably dumb". Most teams are "probably dumb".
 
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