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Créé par: justaBoss
Équipe: 2019-20 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 30 avr. 2019
Publié: 30 avr. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
69 000 000 $
21 850 000 $
11 000 000 $
1800 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
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TBL
  1. Fast, Jesper
  2. Raddysh, Darren
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (TBL)
  4. Choix de 6e ronde en 2019 (NYR)
NYR
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3.
TBL
  1. Quenneville, John [Droits de RFA]
  2. Vatanen, Sami (2 437 500 $ retained)
NJD
  1. Killorn, Alex
  2. Stephens, Mitchell
  3. Thomas, Ben [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (TBL)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 000 000 $78 581 664 $0 $1 362 500 $4 418 336 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, C, AG
NTC
UFA - 5
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 8
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728 333 $728 333 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 5
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 3
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5 166 666 $5 166 666 $
C, AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 6
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728 333 $728 333 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
C, AG
UFA - 1
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833 333 $833 333 $
AD
RFA - 2
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1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
697 500 $697 500 $ (Bonis de performance147 500 $$148K)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
3 875 000 $3 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
0 $0 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2

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30 avr. 2019 à 16 h 24
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Devils decline pretty easily
30 avr. 2019 à 16 h 27
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Devils decline pretty easily


What should be changed? I don't know if Devils need Vatanen that much, but Killer is a decent 40-point winger and Stephens is a decent prospect.
30 avr. 2019 à 17 h 47
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
What should be changed? I don't know if Devils need Vatanen that much, but Killer is a decent 40-point winger and Stephens is a decent prospect.


Unfortunately, the trade is both insufficient in value and incongruent with the Devils' needs.

First, on value: Even if Killorn is equal in value to Vatanen (which I'd disagree with), the Devils would give up the best, most NHL-ready prospect in this trade. Quenneville is a year older than Stephens, but he has been far more productive at the AHL level. Neither player is a top prospect, but Quenneville is a better bet to eventually play on an NHL bottom 6 (he will likely play on the Devils' fourth line in 2019-20). Ben Thomas has not shown NHL potential. The 3rd-round pick is not enough to bridge this gap, especially given that New Jersey also eats $2M of Cap in this trade; the Devils may have Cap space to spare, but that they'll still demand a premium to help other teams with their Cap problems.

Second, on need: To answer your question, the Devils do need Vatanen that much. He may be the best Defenseman on a team that lacks top Defensemen, and his ability to play either side of the ice has been invaluable. Meanwhile, New Jersey will have enough decent Forwards to fill out their middle-6 (especially with Hughes or Kappo on the way). If the team does need a middle-6 Forward, they could probably find one in Free Agency (one that may be cheaper than Killorn).

That being said, the Rangers trade is a cool concept. I don't know that the Rangers would give up a prospect in the deal (even if it means that they get less value from the Lightning), but the idea that Tampa could pay them to eat Callahan's contract is a good one.
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30 avr. 2019 à 19 h 23
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Quoting: Uberrima_Fides
Unfortunately, the trade is both insufficient in value and incongruent with the Devils' needs.

First, on value: Even if Killorn is equal in value to Vatanen (which I'd disagree with), the Devils would give up the best, most NHL-ready prospect in this trade. Quenneville is a year older than Stephens, but he has been far more productive at the AHL level. Neither player is a top prospect, but Quenneville is a better bet to eventually play on an NHL bottom 6 (he will likely play on the Devils' fourth line in 2019-20). Ben Thomas has not shown NHL potential. The 3rd-round pick is not enough to bridge this gap, especially given that New Jersey also eats $2M of Cap in this trade; the Devils may have Cap space to spare, but that they'll still demand a premium to help other teams with their Cap problems.

Second, on need: To answer your question, the Devils do need Vatanen that much. He may be the best Defenseman on a team that lacks top Defensemen, and his ability to play either side of the ice has been invaluable. Meanwhile, New Jersey will have enough decent Forwards to fill out their middle-6 (especially with Hughes or Kappo on the way). If the team does need a middle-6 Forward, they could probably find one in Free Agency (one that may be cheaper than Killorn).

That being said, the Rangers trade is a cool concept. I don't know that the Rangers would give up a prospect in the deal (even if it means that they get less value from the Lightning), but the idea that Tampa could pay them to eat Callahan's contract is a good one.


With all due respect to Darren Raddysh, who is a better hockey player than I'll ever be, he is not really a prospect. And a 6th round pick is nothing. So it is really costing them Fast to take on Callahan's contract for just the last season, and they would get two good prospects and move up 30 spots in the draft. That would be too lopsided in favor of the Rangers. As a Ranger fan myself I'd say pull back one of the kids and maybe make the Ranger 6th a 4th in 2020. And really, that's still too much.
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30 avr. 2019 à 21 h 21
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Quoting: Uberrima_Fides
Unfortunately, the trade is both insufficient in value and incongruent with the Devils' needs.

First, on value: Even if Killorn is equal in value to Vatanen (which I'd disagree with), the Devils would give up the best, most NHL-ready prospect in this trade. Quenneville is a year older than Stephens, but he has been far more productive at the AHL level. Neither player is a top prospect, but Quenneville is a better bet to eventually play on an NHL bottom 6 (he will likely play on the Devils' fourth line in 2019-20). Ben Thomas has not shown NHL potential. The 3rd-round pick is not enough to bridge this gap, especially given that New Jersey also eats $2M of Cap in this trade; the Devils may have Cap space to spare, but that they'll still demand a premium to help other teams with their Cap problems.

Second, on need: To answer your question, the Devils do need Vatanen that much. He may be the best Defenseman on a team that lacks top Defensemen, and his ability to play either side of the ice has been invaluable. Meanwhile, New Jersey will have enough decent Forwards to fill out their middle-6 (especially with Hughes or Kappo on the way). If the team does need a middle-6 Forward, they could probably find one in Free Agency (one that may be cheaper than Killorn).

That being said, the Rangers trade is a cool concept. I don't know that the Rangers would give up a prospect in the deal (even if it means that they get less value from the Lightning), but the idea that Tampa could pay them to eat Callahan's contract is a good one.


Quenneville can be dropped from the trade. I myself thought that he's more of a bust that's not a necessary piece for you but could become decent bottom-6 player in TB after a while. I constructed the move as Killorn+Stephens for Vatanen and Thomas+3rd in exchange to Quenneville and the salary retention. With all respect I gotta say NJ is one of the teams I don't know that much about so it's beneficial to have good feedback from a fan. Thanks.
1 mai 2019 à 14 h 22
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Quoting: WalterT
With all due respect to Darren Raddysh, who is a better hockey player than I'll ever be, he is not really a prospect.


You're right; I got him mixed up with his brother, Taylor.
 
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