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Créé par: Zhaavs

Équipe: 2019-20 Avalanche du Colorado

Date de création initiale: 24 avr. 2019

Publié: 24 avr. 2019

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Building a second line behind the big dogs. I think 8M may be a little light for skinner, but there is still over 1M in cap to account for that.

Trading Barrie over to EDM for RNH. Thought about making the 2nd rounder conditional. Maybe it can become a 1st in 2020 if Barrie doesn't resign in Edmonton at the end of next season? I feel like the avs protect Girard and Makar and EJ has a NMC, so we could lose Barrie during expansion. I'd rather bite the bullet now and get a huge asset.

Draft Cozens and have him be sheltered on the fourth line and be able to slide up and down depending on performance and injury to others. He'll get to play with Jost though so you could view this as a 3A and 3B line format.

In reality, Cozens probably gets a year in the minors and Kaut takes that roster spot.

Would love everyone's feedback!

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Kamenev, Vladislav	3	1 000 000 $
Kerfoot, Alexander	3	4 000 000 $
Rantanen, Mikko	7	9 000 000 $
Graves, Ryan	3	900 000 $
Compher, J.T.	3	3 500 000 $
Zadorov, Nikita	3	3 000 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Wilson, Colin	3	3 000 000 $
Skinner, Jeff	6	8 000 000 $
Francouz, Pavel	2	800 000 $

CRÉÉ		ANS	CAP HIT
Cozens, Dylan		3	925 000 $

Transactions

COL

Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan

EDM

Barrie, Tyson
Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (COL)

COL

Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (EDM)

EDM

Barberio, Mark

Détails additionnels:

Anywhere, for anything

Rachats de contrats

Brooks Orpik: 1 500 000 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2019
2020
2021

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
25	82 000 000 $	81 022 261 $	0 $	3 532 500 $	977 739 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Landeskog, Gabriel 5 571 429 $5 571 429 $ AG, C M-NTC UFA - 2	MacKinnon, Nathan 6 300 000 $6 300 000 $ C UFA - 4	Rantanen, Mikko 9 000 000 $9 000 000 $ AD, C UFA - 6
Kerfoot, Alexander 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 4	Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AG, C UFA - 2	Skinner, Jeff 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8
Wilson, Colin 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Söderberg, Carl 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ C, AG M-NTC UFA - 1	Compher, J.T. 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ C, AD UFA - 4
	Cozens, Dylan 925 000 $925 000 $	Jost, Tyson 885 833 $885 833 $ (850 000 $$850K) C UFA - 1
Calvert, Matt 2 850 000 $2 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Kaut, Martin 894 167 $894 167 $ AD RFA - 4
Nieto, Matt 1 975 000 $1 975 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Kamenev, Vladislav 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ C RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Girard, Samuel 728 333 $728 333 $ (182 500 $$182K) DG/DD UFA - 1	Johnson, Erik 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4	Grubauer, Philipp 3 333 333 $3 333 333 $ G UFA - 2
Zadorov, Nikita 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Makar, Cale 880 833 $880 833 $ (2 500 000 $$2M) DD UFA - 2	Francouz, Pavel 800 000 $800 000 $ G UFA - 1
Cole, Ian 3 450 000 $3 450 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2	Timmins, Conor 925 000 $925 000 $ DD RFA - 2
Graves, Ryan 900 000 $900 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Meloche, Nicolas 853 333 $853 333 $ DD UFA - 1

24 avr. 2019 à 21 h 36

KingLundqvist30

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There’s no other way to put this. I would love this. This teams top 6 is sooooo dirty they would be made an instant cup favorite. The only issue I see now is the Defense is EJ a #1 guy? Or is he someone that can play with another #1 guy and create a deadly pairing?

24 avr. 2019 à 21 h 40

Zhaavs

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Quoting: Grantedspace96

He is a #1 pairing defenseman in my opinion. He has been anchoring the avs blue line for years. He does everything really well. Plays sound defensively, can move the puck, provides solid offense from time to time. When he is on the ice, you know he isn't going to hurt you. Sure, he is no Yosi and doesn't bring the offense like Burns. But between EJ, Makar, Girard, and Zadorov I'm very comfortable with them as a top 4. (as a cohesive unit)

24 avr. 2019 à 21 h 44

oilnate

Rejoint: mai 2017

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I like the RNH for Barrie trade idea. It was batted around before but I think the time may be right now for a trade. Although I am confused as why you would have to protect Makar in the expansion draft, would he not be protected?

24 avr. 2019 à 21 h 50

Zhaavs

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Quoting: oilnate

Hmm, I was under the impression that you could only protect 3 defensemen. Does his RFA status automatically protect him?

24 avr. 2019 à 22 h 13

Ragsandbluesfan

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Quoting: Zhaavs

Hmm, I was under the impression that you could only protect 3 defensemen. Does his RFA status automatically protect him?

It was made clear that once makar made his NHL debut he would have to be protected in the expansion draft

24 avr. 2019 à 22 h 35

oilnate

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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan

It was made clear that once makar made his NHL debut he would have to be protected in the expansion draft

Thanks for clearing that up wasn't sure how that stood

24 avr. 2019 à 22 h 36

oilnate

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Also my bad I thought for some reason that Seattle had a team sooner then they actually will

24 avr. 2019 à 22 h 47

adamkaz23

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I'm kind of hoping CHI takes Cozens at 3 and Avs draft Podkolzin. He'll play a couple more years in Russia and it would allow us to protect another player from Seattle. Kerfoot and compher signings are accurate imo. I think Zadorov will want at least 4+ on a long term deal and I think the Avs should pay him. Personally I don't really want Skinner at that price, I think he'll get overpaid by some team and I don't want it to be the Avs. I'd rather they go for Brock Nelson or Anders Lee at around 6m per.

Barrie is one of my favorite players but Makar can fill that role seamlessly. Could be gone by first day of the draft.

The Avs are in a great position. They could stand Pat in the off-season and still be a better team next year. GO AVS!!!

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24 avr. 2019 à 22 h 48

Ryminister_27

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RNH for Barrie straight up and Barrie goes to Edmonton with an extension instead

Otherwise, not bad work at all here.

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25 avr. 2019 à 0 h 43

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Zhaavs

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Quoting: Ryminister_27

RNH for Barrie straight up and Barrie goes to Edmonton with an extension instead

Otherwise, not bad work at all here.”

Thanks! Appreciate the feedback. I was a little torn over adding that pick or not. The big swing was contract length. RNH has a pretty favorable contract and Barrie would be on his final year by the time this trade happens.

I don’t know if they trade RNH for potentially one season of Barrie.

25 avr. 2019 à 0 h 50

#11

Zhaavs

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Quoting: adamkaz23

I see where you’re coming from. I feel like 8 for Skinner would be great. Proven 30 goal scorer in his prime years when the avs window is just starting to open is great.

This team was fortunate enough to have the best line in hockey healthy for most of the season. If any of the big three miss significant time, this team doesn’t make the playoff. We need another layer of skilled depth.

Lee and Nelson would sign in NYI for 6. Anywhere else and I think they can demand 6.5-7. At those prices I’d rather shell out the extra million for the younger play who has scored 30 goals consistently.

25 avr. 2019 à 2 h 21

#12

adamkaz23

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Quoting: Zhaavs

Good point. He could be a good fit with RNH. But if we don't get RNH, I'm not sure skinner would live up to that contract unless we upgrade at 2C. And if Rantanen is gonna get a big payday, he's gonna have to play with Mack the majority of the season to keep his 80+ point pace.

25 avr. 2019 à 12 h 8

#13

rmaccallum

Rejoint: avr. 2019

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I love this, Edmonton should jump all over it though their fans seem to way overvalue RNH. Personally I'd rather see them let Wilson walk and give Jost and Greer more of a chance, plus I think you're a tad low on the Z and Francouz contracts.

25 avr. 2019 à 13 h 30

#14

russ02

AXR

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I think the trade happens straight up if anything

25 avr. 2019 à 13 h 35

#15

Zhaavs

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Quoting: rmaccallum

Agreed that the Z contract is a bit low. Francouz could probably be had for that. I don’t think other teams are lining up to sign him.

25 avr. 2019 à 13 h 37

#16

Zhaavs

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Quoting: russ02

I think the trade happens straight up if anything

Maybe. It all depends on Barries contract status. He’ll be on his final year before being a UFA. I have a hard time seeing Edmonton roll the dice on losing their third best player with a favorable contract for nothing.

25 avr. 2019 à 16 h 30

#17

rmaccallum

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Quoting: Zhaavs

Yeah I think if you were just trading player for player it would be fair, but contract for contract Avs might have to add something.

25 avr. 2019 à 17 h 9

#18

milehigh11

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Quoting: Zhaavs

Hmm, I was under the impression that you could only protect 3 defensemen. Does his RFA status automatically protect him?

You can protect 7 Fwds/3 defenders /1 goalie or 8 skaters total and 1 goalie

Due to him signing at age 20 he was exposed the moment he played a game for the Avs. And we can also ask EJ to waive his NMC/NTC clause to be unprotected so we dont have to expose a younger player.

I also wouldnt mind expanding that Edmonton trade to include Darnel Nurse to give us a LHD if we go offense at 4th overall. EJ is more of a #4 defender right now. I see Makar being the #1 guy going into next year if Barrie is gone

Defenders:

Nurse / Makar
Girard / EJ
Zadarov / Cole

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