you cant be a pens fan those are awful for the pens

Care to expand on that?

Dallas can’t trade their first until the conditions of the zuccarello trade aren’t met

Sorry, forgot to link you, care to expand on that?

Love Buffalo trade, but that’s because it’s a little favored for buffalo lol. If pens just traded us a 3rd without the picks you mentioned I think it would be more fair

No thanks to all of them.

That Dallas trade, Malkin could get all that in his own and it still probably wouldn’t be enough. Add a solid 3rd liner and the pens should get a lot more. The problem with trading malkin is you either need to get an elite player back, or the other team pretty much has to blow up their depth.
In terms of the AZ trade, take off the retention and it’s closer. Might even have to make it a 1st instead of a 2nd too.
The Montreal trade, I’m not trading Pavlychev. Maatta for a 2nd is good enough for a trade.
The buffalo trade is absolutely unnecessary. Trading Jarry, a bottom 9 versatile and cheap forward, and a 1st for a giant pile of nothing.
The LA trade we are taking on a guy that could be a cap dump or could be a decent middle 6 forward for 2 cheaper decent middle 6 forwards. And we upgrade our pick a round. Not worth it.

Totally see your points on this. All of these trades are the kinda, least case scenario. With the cap and league team saturation, NO ONE is gonna blow it all up for 1 player much less most (if not all) of those players have movement clauses that would negate those trades anyway. By the way, THANK YOU for your intelligent input on this. Have a good Holiday if it's yours to celebrate.

malkin kessel rust all are more valuable than that. brown isslow and over paid, kings wont give up young players or picks.
The buffalo trade is absolutely unnecessary. Trading Jarry, a bottom 9 versatile and cheap forward, and a 1st for a giant pile of nothing.
This sums up sabres trade quite well

Jarry has to play in the bigs next year or has to pass thru waivers... get something for him or keep him and lose DeSmith for nothing (leading to the Vilatta trade). Jarry and Reese are both known quantities to JB and to add a 1st to a depth ravaged team is a no brainer for them. The Pens adding a SOLID 2nd pair D and a very intriguing CJ is a no brainer.

i think the dallas trade is the only one that's just got to much going on to make sense i'd keep Malkin if Kessels going .
(honestly he shoulda got a 1st as he's lead PPP league wide for 4 seasons )
Buf trade isnt necessary because you forget to sign RFA Rikola who's better then Mccabe .
take out those 2 trades and i think you got a contender again .

the MTL trade works as Fleury's WAY more likely and currently closer to making it as a NHL player then Pavlychev is to make it as a 4th line Center and
no one's giving up anything more then a 2nd for Maata thats for sure
(lucky for PIT our coach loves having a huge 4th line so we see it as worth the gamble)

I just don't see Rikkola staying if he's not "guaranteed" more playing time. I don't see that happening in PIT. Don't agree on the McCabe comparison but such is life.

If you guys wanna add the "other" Rasmus, I'm OK with that.

well if you move out Maata and dont bring in Mccabe he'd get that ice time .

Mccabe's hit his full potential with maybe a little room for growth as an all around player as he becomes a veteran .
Rikola on the other hand has potential to become a 3rd-4th D getting his ice time on 2nd PP unit and 2nd pair.

honestly i'd 100% rather Rikola then Maata if he's just floating around somewhere hahaha :P

But McCabe is exactly what they need. Stay at home, stay at home, stay at home...OM needs a fresh scene (oddly enough the biggest unknown quantity is if he could survive MON). Riikola is more a Oleksiak type player. A tweener between O and D.

you are way overvaluing mccbae nd smith a 3rd pairing d thats a rfa and a 4th liner thats a rfa woud not trade a 1st aone for them. jarry hold more value to other teams

But who? Every team either cannot take Jarry without risk of losing him to waivers because they have either goalie depth or signed players. Ullmark isn't even a back-up at this point so it fits for BUF. Ideally I would have moved Jarry to CHI for Edjsell but Dalia got in the way...

oilers, panthers,canes, kkings if they move quick, flames, jackets red wings wild off the top of mmy head

It’s not about who is closer, it’s just the fact that we have Letang, Schultz, Gudbranson, Addison, Prow. Prow is ready to make the jump now, Ruhwedel/Trotman can be re-signed too as extra Dmen. And as the pens are kinda cap strapped, it’s not beneficial to have a 4 million dollar healthy scratch. Plus Petterson and Gudbranson work well as the third pair. Schultz and Riikola should be 2nd pair. Letang and Dumo as 1st pair. Prow and maybe Ruh or Trotman can be serve as the extra defensemen.
We need a younger and faster bottom 6. That’s where pavlychev, Blueger, Hallander,A. Johnson, etc come in.