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Créé par: ADubs
Équipe: 2018-19 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 23 févr. 2019
Publié: 23 févr. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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NYR
  1. Senyshyn, Zach
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (BOS)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (NYR)
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23 févr. 2019 à 9 h 28
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Not really close... kreider is trade for elite prospect...
Good offer but not for this player.
23 févr. 2019 à 9 h 44
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Yeah I don't see a Kreider deal to Boston that doesn't start with DeBrusk.
23 févr. 2019 à 11 h 20
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Quoting: xxNYRxx
Not really close... kreider is trade for elite prospect...
Good offer but not for this player.


Quoting: Sagecoll
Yeah I don't see a Kreider deal to Boston that doesn't start with DeBrusk.


Lol, and Minny fans said or 1st or 2nd and a prospect was not enough for Coyle. Everyone overvalues their players. This is pretty close to his actual value. Might have to swap Seny for another prospect, JFK maybe, but It’s reasonable. Debrusk a 1st and mid is not. Debrusk is not being moved for one but hypothetically if he was you would not be getting a 1st too.

Does not solve the B’s problem on RW though. Not what they are looking for.
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23 févr. 2019 à 11 h 34
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Lol, and Minny fans said or 1st or 2nd and a prospect was not enough for Coyle. Everyone overvalues their players. This is pretty close to his actual value. Might have to swap Seny for another prospect, JFK maybe, but It’s reasonable. Debrusk a 1st and mid is not. Debrusk is not being moved for one but hypothetically if he was you would not be getting a 1st too.

Does not solve the B’s problem on RW though. Not what they are looking for.



Player A: 856 Mins, 1.19 Goals/60, 2.31 Points/60
Player B: 836 Mins, 1.08 Goals/60, 2.30 Points/60


Player A is Kreider
Player B is Pastrnak


How much you want for Pasta?
...I'm guessing more than what I'm asking for?
Maybe a 1st, 4th and Ryan Lindgren?
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23 févr. 2019 à 12 h 17
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Player A: 856 Mins, 1.19 Goals/60, 2.31 Points/60
Player B: 836 Mins, 1.08 Goals/60, 2.30 Points/60


Player A is Kreider
Player B is Pastrnak


How much you want for Pasta?
...I'm guessing more than what I'm asking for?
Maybe a 1st, 4th and Ryan Lindgren?


Lol, the 2 are not close and are not close in trade value.

Player A 24-20-44 in 60. 1 year left

Player B 31-35-66 in 56. 4 years left and 5 years younger

Not trying to disparage Kreider. Very good player. I can pull a couple metrics that show Zuccarello is better than say...Tavares. Does not mean he is. Trying to compare the 2 is a big stretch. Kreider trade value is 1st, good prospect and mid. The OP is pretty close, i just don’t think Seny has enough value as the prospect. JFK, Urho V, Studnicka, or Frederic would have to replace him. But Boston does not pay that because it’s not the need. Most likely a 2nd and a low end prospect for Zuccarello if the two teams do anything this year.
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23 févr. 2019 à 12 h 30
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Lol, the 2 are not close and are not close in trade value.

Player A 24-20-44 in 60. 1 year left

Player B 31-35-66 in 56. 4 years left and 5 years younger

Not trying to disparage Kreider. Very good player. I can pull a couple metrics that show Zuccarello is better than say...Tavares. Does not mean he is. Trying to compare the 2 is a big stretch. Kreider trade value is 1st, good prospect and mid. The OP is pretty close, i just don’t think Seny has enough value as the prospect. JFK, Urho V, Studnicka, or Frederic would have to replace him. But Boston does not pay that because it’s not the need. Most likely a 2nd and a low end prospect for Zuccarello if the two teams do anything this year.


Yeah it seems like you're vastly overrating your own prospect pool.
Kreider is getting a similar deal to Pacioretty (except with a 1st over a 2nd because he's younger/healthier and you have him for 2 cup runs) ----
NHL Top 50 Prospect + Top 6 player under 30 with term + 1st.

The problem is that there isn't a top 50 prospect in your system. Perhaps not even a top 100 prospect in your system. It's a non starter without a guy like say Debrusk.

The closest thing I can come with in terms of a deal is like Debrusk + Lauko + 2nd. You probably don't want to do that. That's OK. I don't think your pool is a good match. You can get Zucc for say Lauko and a 2nd.

But yeah I'm not sure you're getting the prices this year:

Duchene went for Abramov (better than Donato when you had him) Davidsson (A top 5 guy in your system) a 1st and a conditional 1st.

That's a rental.

Kreider is probably getting as much if not more for his term/cap hit.

Brian Boyle went for a 2nd
Nick Jensen went for a 2nd + Bowey.

Zucc is going to be worth a solid bit more. (2nd + top 100 prospect) or 1st.
23 févr. 2019 à 12 h 40
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Modifié 23 févr. 2019 à 12 h 55
Quoting: Sagecoll
Yeah it seems like you're vastly overrating your own prospect pool.
Kreider is getting a similar deal to Pacior&etty (except with a 1st over a 2nd because he's younger/healthier and you have him for 2 cup runs) ----
NHL Top 50 Prospect + Top 6 player under 30 with term + 1st.

The problem is that there isn't a top 50 prospect in your system. Perhaps not even a top 100 prospect in your system. It's a non starter without a guy like say Debrusk.

The closest thing I can come with in terms of a deal is like Debrusk + Lauko + 2nd. You probably don't want to do that. That's OK. I don't think your pool is a good match. You can get Zucc for say Lauko and a 2nd.

But yeah I'm not sure you're getting the prices this year:

Duchene went for Abramov (better than Donato when you had him) Davidsson (A top 5 guy in your system) a 1st and a conditional 1st.

That's a rental.

Kreider is probably getting as much if not more for his term/cap hit.

Brian Boyle went for a 2nd
Nick Jensen went for a 2nd + Bowey.

Zucc is going to be worth a solid bit more. (2nd + top 100 prospect) or 1st.


Teams always overpay at the deadline. Nature of the beast. Look at Tatar last year, crazy. Bruins are going away from that. They might take a run at Stone but i think that’s a pipe dream. Dzingel, Simmonds, Brassard, Anisimov, Zucc would be the likely targets but they are not paying the asking price for them. If they can’t get one for a reasonable cost they will pass. They can add someone like Panik to play 3rd line for half the cost or fill it internally. Honestly B’s would be more interested in Hayes or Zucc than Kreider anyway. Don’t need a LW.

You are right about their prospect pool though. It is nowhere near as deep or as good as B’s fans think it is.
23 févr. 2019 à 20 h 27
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Zucc is going to be worth a solid bit more. (2nd + top 100 prospect) or 1st.


2 conditional picks. Lol.
 
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