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Duchene and Dzingel to NYI

Créé par: TkachukNorris79
Équipe: 2018-19 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 17 févr. 2019
Publié: 17 févr. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Signed at 8x8 and 5x5.
Transactions
OTT
  1. Dobson, Noah
  2. Koivula, Otto
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (NYI)
NYI
  1. Duchene, Matt
  2. Dzingel, Ryan
Détails additionnels:
Duchene (signed 8x8)
Dzingel (signed 5x5)
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17 févr. 2019 à 14 h 18
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If it is a sign and trade like you proposed then the Sens will get more then that for sure.
17 févr. 2019 à 14 h 28
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Quoting: Smokingun71
If it is a sign and trade like you proposed then the Sens will get more then that for sure.


I disagree. A high end D prospect, and a center prospect tearing up the AHL this season and a first is plenty. Getting BOTH guys to sign extensions before the trade is done is the real problem here. Way to many moving parts but I like the value for both teams.
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17 févr. 2019 à 14 h 47
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Quoting: dgmilazz
I disagree. A high end D prospect, and a center prospect tearing up the AHL this season and a first is plenty. Getting BOTH guys to sign extensions before the trade is done is the real problem here. Way to many moving parts but I like the value for both teams.


LMFOA that package does not even get you duchene signed yet alone Dzingle too. that proly does not even get Duch unsigned alone yet alone add Dzingle.
17 févr. 2019 à 14 h 52
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Quoting: athrin
LMFOA that package does not even get you duchene signed yet alone Dzingle too. that proly does not even get Duch unsigned alone yet alone add Dzingle.


Can’t wait to see how disappointed you are after the TD.
17 févr. 2019 à 14 h 56
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That's a fair trade for both. @Athrin you couldn't be any more wrong. See this post again in a week...
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17 févr. 2019 à 14 h 58
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That's a fair trade for both. @Athrin you couldn't be any more wrong. See this post again in a week...


LMFAO considering they can get a 1st + for Dzingle and a top prospects a roster player and a 1st and maybe more for Duch both unsigned this "offer" is an insult.
17 févr. 2019 à 15 h 41
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Quoting: athrin
LMFAO considering they can get a 1st + for Dzingle and a top prospects a roster player and a 1st and maybe more for Duch both unsigned this "offer" is an insult.


Dzingel won't get a 1st+. Either a 1st or a prospect+2nd. Here, he's getting the 1st.

Maybe a signed Duchene gets more than Dobson+Koivula but not that much more. Maybe CGY 2nd as well. Or Ho-Sang.

Getting Dobson back is a huuuge win regardless. Especially if Duchene isn't signing in Ottawa.
17 févr. 2019 à 17 h 32
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Quoting: MelnykOut
Dzingel won't get a 1st+. Either a 1st or a prospect+2nd. Here, he's getting the 1st.

Maybe a signed Duchene gets more than Dobson+Koivula but not that much more. Maybe CGY 2nd as well. Or Ho-Sang.

Getting Dobson back is a huuuge win regardless. Especially if Duchene isn't signing in Ottawa.


if its the best offer before the 25th i could live with getting Dobson but something better than a no name prospect would need to be included and conditional picks will most likely be involved in any deal that involved Dzingle, Stone and Duchene.

Duchene is a 1C and signed he is valuable much more so than a late 1st, dobson and a unknown propect.

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if Stone goes to either Jets or NSH that top 4 will be scary to play against.
17 févr. 2019 à 17 h 48
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if its the best offer before the 25th i could live with getting Dobson but something better than a no name prospect would need to be included and conditional picks will most likely be involved in any deal that involved Dzingle, Stone and Duchene.

Duchene is a 1C and signed he is valuable much more so than a late 1st, dobson and a unknown propect.

Chabot-Dobson
Wolanin-Niku/Fabbro

if Stone goes to either Jets or NSH that top 4 will be scary to play against.


LOL Koivula isn't really unknown but okay
17 févr. 2019 à 17 h 52
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Quoting: MelnykOut
LOL Koivula isn't really unknown but okay


not even top 10 prospect for NYI on the info i go by.
18 févr. 2019 à 7 h 42
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not even top 10 prospect for NYI on the info i go by.


He came over from finland this season and is really turning heads. 21 year old who has been putting up points in his first season playing North American hockey.

He is a big centerman at 6’4” and was recently drawing comparisons to Kopitar. Now I don’t think he turns out to be THAT good but he is a promising young C prospect who will shoot up prospect lists after the season.
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18 févr. 2019 à 7 h 45
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Quoting: dgmilazz
He came over from finland this season and is really turning heads. 21 year old who has been putting up points in his first season playing North American hockey.

He is a big centerman at 6’4” and was recently drawing comparisons to Kopitar. Now I don’t think he turns out to be THAT good but he is a promising young C prospect who will shoot up prospect lists after the season.


And seems like someone Dorion would target. Very similar to getting Balcers in the Karlsson deal, and he looks like a really nice piece.
 
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