solid

As a Detroit fan that looks ok I think the 2nd is enough but I have no idea what Holland wants for him. I did think it was odd he didn't go last year.

Jaskin is included to clear space. Caps need to clear bodies out of their 4th line. There's like 5 guys rotating in and out, and it's messy.

Jaskin is good though and he has team control. I actually like Jaskin but I think Reirden has soured for a really bad reason.

Consensus seems to be he just really likes Glendening and he's a good mentor for all of Detroit's young centers coming soon.

He's one of Babcock's favorites as well. Your summary of him in the explanation was accurate. Most people don't realize how fast he is a good portion of his goals are from breakaways.

Absolutely not. Caps have like 5 4th liners, we don't need anymore. Plus we really need our 1st and 2nd round picks. Plus Glendening is very very meh.

This would be a nice move.

Having a bunch of mediocre parts doesn't equal a good one. The point is to stabilize that line and stop just popping in blase pieces. Glendening is a good bottom guy. Advanced stats and eye test tell a good story.

According to about every metric Jaskin is better than he is. He's also cheaper and isn't on for long term.

Where are you getting "he's a good PK'er" from? He's god awful.

https://hockeyviz.com/player/glendlu89/DET/1819

Which is why blindly looking at stats is fail.

He plays against the other teams top PP, which is the group that typically scores. So your #1 PK unit usually gives up more because they are not facing the #2 PP unit. That doesn't make them "worse" than the #2 PK unit.

Wrong. PK units, while there is a "top unit" are generally more interchangeable than top PP to second PP. For instance since (I assume) you're a caps fan.

https://hockeyviz.com/player/ellerla89/WSH/1819
https://hockeyviz.com/player/smithde92/WSH/1819

I'd recommend you poke through others yourself, and look for other samples from other teams as well.

I actually watch the games...

Same

That's an odd assumption. I thought he was a Penguins fan.

It looks like your chart is saying that Eller gives up more shots from down low that Smith-Pelly, which might kinda fit with what biglite is saying here, even though I hesitate to agree with anything he says.

The rigidity of PK units varies by team, a bit. Tough to analyze without combing through shift charts, but there are certainly some where guys are either PK1 or PK2, and they never switch.

Is Glendening any good on PK? Who can tell, with so many competing philosophies? Have to watch him a little bit and see.

But if Reirden would play him on PK, as opposed to Jaskin who does have all kinds of good defensive stats but just doesn't seem to fit Reirden's idea of a penalty killer.... then he could be a better fit in Washington.

Fehr should be cheaper. Nate Thompson is already gone for a song. If the Caps wait until Fehr is off the market, the above is likely what they end up paying on Glendening, in order to get WIlson, Backstrom, Oshie, and even Eller a little bit less PK time each night, so they each have a little more zip, on offense.

Fehr would be fine, there, but Glendening has more goals and hits than Fehr or Jaskin. Still not many. Is the difference worth a 2nd, when Fehr is available for a 4th? Questionable, for sure.

Either would bring so much experience and stability, and even though Fehr doesn't hit as much, he's big and stays in position pretty well. Who else is really available that could play a similar role?

Here's an Ottawa thread trading Jean-Gabriel Pageau for a 2nd and a 3rd. I think Pageau brings similar defense to Glendening, with just a whole lot more offense, and he's stepped up in the playoffs, before, pretty well: https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/202145

They're also dumping Zach Smith for a 3rd, but I think he's overpaid?

With Pageau that's a good deal. I wouldn't touch Smith. Washed up and expensive.

Ottawa fan opinions are pretty divided, though. Some wouldn't trade Pageau for anything. Some want to dump Smith for a 6th. I think if Pageau cost a 2nd and a 3rd, Washington could get two 2nds for Burakovsky elsehwere, and net Pageau and a 2nd for Burakovsky and a 3rd, which ends up pretty good.

If the picks aren't there, directly, maybe trade Bura for Nichushkin and a 2nd and then Nichushkin and a 3rd for Pageau?

Could sweeten the latter with Pinho, or some B prospect, if absolutely necessary?