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GMJR said this

Créé par: LetsTalkNHL
Date de création initiale: fév 5, 2019
Publié: 5 fév 2019 à 14 h 46
Équipe: 2018-19 Penguins de Pittsburgh
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GMJR was on the radio yesterday and said that the Pens shouldn't need a winger once everyone is healthy. He also stated that he'd love to keep the 1st round pick and that he is still talking to teams just to stay in the loop. He also wants to get his injured players back before making any final decisions.

The Pens may still be on the lookout for a 3C. When the Florida trade was made, he said that he sees Bjugstad on the wing. That either means he sees McCann as his 3C or hell look to make a move for one. The Pens will need cap space for next year, so maybe he looks to deal for a 3C while shedding cap.

With all this, I believe the Pens either stand pat and make no more moves or deal for a 3C like Tierney, Pageau, Granlund, etc. Thoughts?
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Nick Bjugstad: 2 050 000 $ (50%)
  • Carl Hagelin: 250 000 $ (6%)
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2018
2019
PIT
BUF
PIT
PIT
VGK
2020
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
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2479 500 000 $78 486 667 $0 $982 500 $1 013 333 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
PIT
Pearson, Tanner
3 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
PIT
Kessel, Phil
6 800 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
734 167 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 7
PIT
Hörnqvist, Patric
5 300 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 5
PIT
Wilson, Garrett
650 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
PIT
Bjugstad, Nick
2 050 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
PIT
Rust, Bryan
3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
PIT
McCann, Jared
1 250 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
PIT
Simon, Dominik
750 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 2
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
PIT
Cullen, Matt
650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
650 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
PIT
Letang, Kris
7 250 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Murray, Matt
3 750 000 $
G
RFA - 2
PIT
Määttä, Olli
4 083 333 $
DG
UFA - 4
PIT
Schultz, Justin
5 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 2
PIT
DeSmith, Casey
675 000 $
G
UFA - 1
PIT
Johnson, Jack
3 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
650 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
794 167 $
DG
UFA - 1

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5 fév 2019 à 14 h 50
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id want him to go get Dzingel for 3c
5 fév 2019 à 15 h 00
#2
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Quoting: EGM
id want him to go get Dzingel for 3c


Dzingel hasn't been C much, but when he has, he's been pretty bad. 33 face-off wins and 51 face-off losses, for a 39.3%. He wouldn't be the ideal 3C and he's on an expiring deal.
5 fév 2019 à 15 h 02
#3
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Quoting: LetsTalkNHL
Dzingel hasn't been C much, but when he has, he's been pretty bad. 33 face-off wins and 51 face-off losses, for a 39.3%. He wouldn't be the ideal 3C and he's on an expiring deal.


aight true. i guess then we could keep Bjugstad at center tho and have Dzingel play wing?
5 fév 2019 à 15 h 05
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Quoting: EGM
aight true. i guess then we could keep Bjugstad at center tho and have Dzingel play wing?


If anything, I think a natural 3C would be the target. Just my opinion! smile
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5 fév 2019 à 15 h 14
#5
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I like Mccann and Bjugstad a lot, if Mccann was better at Faceoffs he would be perfect for 3C but he isnt great. I guess they can use Cullen and their 4th for big D zone draws and utilize Mccann mostly in the O-zone
5 fév 2019 à 15 h 19
#6
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Quoting: shmoeman
I like Mccann and Bjugstad a lot, if Mccann was better at Faceoffs he would be perfect for 3C but he isnt great. I guess they can use Cullen and their 4th for big D zone draws and utilize Mccann mostly in the O-zone


Thats the only issue with McCann. Im really excited and curious to see the lineup once Malkin is back.
5 fév 2019 à 15 h 24
#7
FrankFurter48
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Nobody is talking about us improving our D. We need to trade Maatta and upgrade to a bonafide shutdown defensemen for the 2nd pair.
5 fév 2019 à 15 h 25
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Quoting: FrankFurter48
Nobody is talking about us improving our D. We need to trade Maatta and upgrade to a bonafide shutdown defensemen for the 2nd pair.


That could be an option, but do you have any potential players they can target. A team that would actually make that move?
5 fév 2019 à 15 h 25
#9
Banni
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At some point they are going to have to start shedding salary and bad contracts. They have roughly $78.5m in committed salary and have to fill 3 NHL roster spots next season. The cap is supposedly going to be $83m next year. Rutherford has a long history of irresponsible spending and it will eventually catch up with the team and could be the reason to take the Penguins out of the contention window long before declining skill does so it might be a good idea to save the #1 pick this year unless you can get a good player on a friendly contract with term. Penguins #1 picks are always later in the round so it's really like a 2nd round pick so I don't see that happening unless you can pair that with another roster player. Combining Jarry and the #1 might be their only option in making that happen but they likely don't have the value to bring a substantial return.
5 fév 2019 à 15 h 32
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Quoting: WhatsaMaattaWithYou
At some point they are going to have to start shedding salary and bad contracts. They have roughly $78.5m in committed salary and have to fill 3 NHL roster spots next season. The cap is supposedly going to be $83m next year. Rutherford has a long history of irresponsible spending and it will eventually catch up with the team and could be the reason to take the Penguins out of the contention window long before declining skill does so it might be a good idea to save the #1 pick this year unless you can get a good player on a friendly contract with term. Penguins #1 picks are always later in the round so it's really like a 2nd round pick so I don't see that happening unless you can pair that with another roster player. Combining Jarry and the #1 might be their only option in making that happen but they likely don't have the value to bring a substantial return.


In terms of moving players with cap, I can see it being Maatta, Pearson, JJ or even Hornqvist. I don't really think they wanna give up Pearson yet. A JJ move seems impossible and a Hornqvist seems unlikely, especially in the middle of the season. Like I said, I see a Maatta for 3C, but a Maatta for defensive LHD makes sense too. You'd have to think the player coming back has a cheaper AAV than Maatta.
5 fév 2019 à 15 h 34
#11
Banni
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Quoting: FrankFurter48
Nobody is talking about us improving our D. We need to trade Maatta and upgrade to a bonafide shutdown defensemen for the 2nd pair.


They need a 2nd pairing defenseman who is good a moving the puck. It cripples the forwards when they're hemmed in their own zone. Penguins have the offense but need defensemen to get them the puck. Pettersson and Riikola are good puck movers but aren't all that strong on the defensive side of their game just yet. We all know Johnson won't be traded and It would make sense to trade Maatta. I wish the Pens would have got Muzzin but they don't have the assets. So what could the Pens honestly get if they packaged Maatta with Jarry and that 1st?
5 fév 2019 à 15 h 39
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Quoting: WhatsaMaattaWithYou
They need a 2nd pairing defenseman who is good a moving the puck. It cripples the forwards when they're hemmed in their own zone. Penguins have the offense but need defensemen to get them the puck. Pettersson and Riikola are good puck movers but aren't all that strong on the defensive side of their game just yet. We all know Johnson won't be traded and It would make sense to trade Maatta. I wish the Pens would have got Muzzin but they don't have the assets. So what could the Pens honestly get if they packaged Maatta with Jarry and that 1st?


Don't think they wanna move the 1st. Nonetheless, finding a really good defenseman who is making less than Maatta is highly unlikely. Deal would be really hard to make.
5 fév 2019 à 15 h 40
#13
Banni
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Quoting: LetsTalkNHL
In terms of moving players with cap, I can see it being Maatta, Pearson, JJ or even Hornqvist. I don't really think they wanna give up Pearson yet. A JJ move seems impossible and a Hornqvist seems unlikely, especially in the middle of the season. Like I said, I see a Maatta for 3C, but a Maatta for defensive LHD makes sense too. You'd have to think the player coming back has a cheaper AAV than Maatta.


Pearson played fine with Malkin and once Shultz comes back, they should be fine. Mccann, Bleuger and Simon would be a perfect 4th line imo. JJ is only worth keeping around so they can leave him exposed in the next expansion draft lol.
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5 fév 2019 à 15 h 41
#14
Banni
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Quoting: LetsTalkNHL
Don't think they wanna move the 1st. Nonetheless, finding a really good defenseman who is making less than Maatta is highly unlikely. Deal would be really hard to make.


They might not have a choice. Maatta is no head turner and Jarrys stock isn't what it was.
5 fév 2019 à 15 h 46
#15
Leafhater
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I think Tierney for Määttä would be a good start. Maybe JR can get Lahore too.
5 fév 2019 à 15 h 46
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Quoting: WhatsaMaattaWithYou
They might not have a choice. Maatta is no head turner and Jarrys stock isn't what it was.


If anything, they'll wait till the offseason. Some cheaper LHD are McNabb (VGK) or Nurse (EDM), Gustafsson (CHI), Zadorov (COL), Hutton (VAN). Don't know if all would be better than Maatta, but they are cheaper.
5 fév 2019 à 15 h 48
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Quoting: quinnjj
I think Tierney for Määttä would be a good start. Maybe JR can get Lahore too.


Id love Tierney for Maatta. Idk who Lahore is, but if you're referring to Lajoie, can't see him being moved.
5 fév 2019 à 15 h 57
#18
FrankFurter48
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I really think we can get Alex Pietrangelo from STL. They would have to take Pearson or Maatta and we'd have to send some 1st's and 2nd's. Putting him with Letang is liek TBL having Hedman and McDonagh or SJS having Burns and Karlsson. Puts our D up there with the top.
5 fév 2019 à 19 h 14
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Quoting: FrankFurter48
I really think we can get Alex Pietrangelo from STL. They would have to take Pearson or Maatta and we'd have to send some 1st's and 2nd's. Putting him with Letang is liek TBL having Hedman and McDonagh or SJS having Burns and Karlsson. Puts our D up there with the top.


I think a lefty would benefit us more.
 
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