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Gostisbehere

Créé par: HawaiianPig
Équipe: 2018-19 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 24 janv. 2019
Publié: 24 janv. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Poehling, Ryan
3800 000 $
Transactions
PHI
  1. Poehling, Ryan
  2. Mete, Victor
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
1st is lottery protected. Give up 2020 1st if Habs win the lottery.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
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2020
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2379 500 000 $71 762 976 $0 $2 500 000 $7 737 024 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 4
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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1 166 667 $1 166 667 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 3
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950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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839 166 $839 166 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
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700 000 $700 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C
UFA - 3
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650 000 $650 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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675 000 $675 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 5
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7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 8
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 8
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725 000 $725 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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950 000 $950 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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24 janv. 2019 à 14 h 41
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That is way too much to give up for an offensive Dmen who can't provide offensively with a stacked team. A first, Lehkonen and Juulsen is more realistic. Poehling will be an awesome 2C in the NHL
24 janv. 2019 à 14 h 42
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this makes the subban looks fair.
24 janv. 2019 à 14 h 43
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Quoting: math731
That is way too much to give up for an offensive Dmen who can't provide offensively with a stacked team. A first, Lehkonen and Juulsen is more realistic. Poehling will be an awesome 2C in the NHL


I think we overrate Poehling. Has never played more than a 36 game season, and projects to be a 3C at best. A great world juniors doesn't change what he is. Griffin Reinhart also had a great worlds once...

The roster player could be Lekhonen, Juulsen or Mete, sure. I figured Mete would become expendible given that Gost is the same type of player (except he can shoot).
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24 janv. 2019 à 14 h 45
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I think we overrate Poehling. Has never played more than a 36 game season, and projects to be a 3C at best. A great world juniors doesn't change what he is. Griffin Reinhart also had a great worlds once...

The roster player could be Lekhonen, Juulsen or Mete, sure. I figured Mete would become expendible given that Gost is the same type of player (except he can shoot).


I'd rather spend that kind of players and picks for a guy like Lindholm. He is reliable and can provide. He'd be awesome on Weber's left side
24 janv. 2019 à 14 h 46
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Not a bad offer but Flyers say no. Wouldn't be smart to trade Ghost while his value is low.
24 janv. 2019 à 14 h 49
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I'd rather spend that kind of players and picks for a guy like Lindholm. He is reliable and can provide. He'd be awesome on Weber's left side


I'd agree, but I doubt Calgary is selling. Gostisbehere is on the outs in Philly; benched at one point and threatened to be scratched. His value is at his lowest (as the other poster pointed out).
24 janv. 2019 à 14 h 51
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I'd agree, but I doubt Calgary is selling. Gostisbehere is on the outs in Philly; benched at one point and threatened to be scratched. His value is at his lowest (as the other poster pointed out).


I was talking about Hampus Lindholm, Ana Dmen
24 janv. 2019 à 14 h 54
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I was talking about Hampus Lindholm, Ana Dmen


I see. Not too familiar with his play style. I figured Gost fits well because he's a fast puck mover with offensive upside that would pair well with Shea. He'll put up at least 40 points a season for you.

Lindholm is bigger which is nice. Either way, I'm not opposed to giving up Poehling as part of a package for a #1 LD.
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24 janv. 2019 à 15 h 8
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Habs would not do this deal. poehling and the first are off limits, Bergevin said it.
24 janv. 2019 à 15 h 26
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Quoting: FiveForFighting
Habs would not do this deal. poehling and the first are off limits, Bergevin said it.


1. He said he won't jeopardize the future for a quick fix. Ghost is under contract until 2023. It would be a hockey trade, not a rental.

2. He said he wasn't shopping PK Subban
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24 janv. 2019 à 15 h 35
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Quoting: HawaiianPig
I think we overrate Poehling. Has never played more than a 36 game season, and projects to be a 3C at best. A great world juniors doesn't change what he is. Griffin Reinhart also had a great worlds once...

The roster player could be Lekhonen, Juulsen or Mete, sure. I figured Mete would become expendible given that Gost is the same type of player (except he can shoot).


Quoting: HawaiianPig
I think we overrate Poehling. Has never played more than a 36 game season, and projects to be a 3C at best. A great world juniors doesn't change what he is. Griffin Reinhart also had a great worlds once...

The roster player could be Lekhonen, Juulsen or Mete, sure. I figured Mete would become expendible given that Gost is the same type of player (except he can shoot).


It's not about overrating. We know he's not a projected 1C... He's turning into a high end 3C, low end 2C that plays a huge 200-foot game.. so essentially, a more up-side version of Danault. This is a very valuable asset. Other than KK, he's our most ready C prospect, and Suzuki will end up playing RW in the NHL while Domi should probably move back to the wing.

Don't get me wrong, I love Gostisbehere, and would gladly welcome a way to put him into a Habs shirt and although your trade proposal makes sense based on value, I don't think the Habs are ready or should give up that amount futures for him. We could find someone at a slightly lower tier than him for cheaper.

But again, your value was pretty well done. I'm sure other teams can offer a similar package to get this done.
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24 janv. 2019 à 16 h 48
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That is way too much to give up for an offensive Dmen who can't provide offensively with a stacked team. A first, Lehkonen and Juulsen is more realistic. Poehling will be an awesome 2C in the NHL


Everyone overrates their mid tier prospects. His skating isn't great. Thats a red flag, and classic on a guy who does well below the NHL but doesn't do well in the NHL. He could do well and that is always the benefit with prospects, but he is far from blue chip.
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