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Créé par: Joffe16

Équipe: 2018-19 Oilers d'Edmonton

Date de création initiale: 23 janv. 2019

Publié: 23 janv. 2019

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

In honour of the worst GM in league history, let’s count down his worst transactions with the Oilers

10. Leon Draisaitl Contract (8.5 x 8)
9. Mikko Koskiken Contract (4.5 x 3)
8. Brandon Manning Trade (He took on a 2.25 x 2 Contract for no reason)
7. Justin Schultz Trade (Cup champion Justin Schultz for a third round pick)
6. Andrej Sekera Contract (5.5 x 6)
5. Kris Russell Contract (4 x 4)
4. Eberle Trades (Eberle for Strome for Spooner who got waived, so Eberle for literally nothing)

3. Barzal Trade (2015 1st Round Pick (Calder winner Barzal) and 2015 2nd Round Pick (Mitchell Stephens) for Griffin Reinhart (Vegas minor leaguer))

2. Hall Trade (MVP Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson, might be worst trade in league history)

1. Lucic Contract (6 x 7, might be worst Contract in league history easily the worst right now)

This list does not touch on countless other bad trades contracts he’s made, such as the Kassian trade abd Contract.

Transactions

EDM

PIT

Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (NYI)

EDM

Caggiula, Drake

CHI

Manning, Brandon

Rachats de contrats

Benoit Pouliot: 1 333 333 $
Eric Gryba: 300 000 $
Milan Lucic: 3 233 333 $
Andrej Sekera: 1 611 111 $
Kris Russell: 611 111 $
Zack Kassian: 616 667 $

Enfoui

Al Montoya: 37 500 $ (1 062 500 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2018
2019
2020
2021

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
24	79 500 000 $	78 829 220 $	0 $	3 212 500 $	670 780 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AG, C UFA - 3	McDavid, Connor 12 500 000 $12 500 000 $ C UFA - 8	Rattie, Ty 800 000 $800 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Hall, Taylor 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Draisaitl, Leon 8 500 000 $8 500 000 $ C, AG UFA - 7	Puljujärvi, Jesse 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 500 000 $$2M) AD UFA - 1
Caggiula, Drake 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Barzal, Mathew 863 333 $863 333 $ (400 000 $$400K) C, AD UFA - 2	Eberle, Jordan 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Rieder, Tobias 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Brodziak, Kyle 1 150 000 $1 150 000 $ C UFA - 2	Yamamoto, Kailer 894 166 $894 166 $ (230 000 $$230K) AD RFA - 3
	Cave, Colby 675 000 $675 000 $ C RFA - 2	Chiasson, Alex 650 000 $650 000 $ AD UFA - 1
	Khaira, Jujhar 675 000 $675 000 $ AG, C UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
	Schultz, Justin 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Talbot, Cam 4 166 666 $4 166 666 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Klefbom, Oscar 4 167 000 $4 167 000 $ DG UFA - 5	Petrovic, Alex 1 950 000 $1 950 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Koskinen, Mikko 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 1
Nurse, Darnell 3 200 000 $3 200 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Benning, Matthew 1 900 000 $1 900 000 $ DD UFA - 2
Gravel, Kevin 700 000 $700 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Mantha, Ryan 870 000 $870 000 $ (82 500 $$82K) DD UFA - 2

23 janv. 2019 à 9 h 3

Hedman77

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Puljujarvi

23 janv. 2019 à 9 h 7

kopakola

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I’m sorry, but did you really mean to say the Hall trade was the worst trade in league history? Edmonton has never made a worse trade?

23 janv. 2019 à 9 h 8

CD282

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Quoting: Hedman77

Puljujarvi

Puljujarvi was consensus #3, that was not a bad pick. His development path was terrible but that's not all on the GM.

23 janv. 2019 à 9 h 9

CD282

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Quoting: kopakola

I’m sorry, but did you really mean to say the Hall trade was the worst trade in league history? Edmonton has never made a worse trade?

Yes, #16 + #33 for a 2nd pairing AHL defenseman. At least in the Hall trade Edmonton got a useful piece back.

23 janv. 2019 à 9 h 10

CD282

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The Sekera contract wasn't a bad one, he was full value for that money until he got injured. The injury isn't Chiarelli's fault (I can't believe I'm defending Chiarelli here!!).

23 janv. 2019 à 9 h 16

CD282

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1. Lucic Contract (6 x 7, might be worst Contract in league history easily the worst right now)

Kesler's is worse - more money, same term, less production, injury-prone.

23 janv. 2019 à 9 h 19

CD282

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Quoting: CD282

Yes, #16 + #33 for a 2nd pairing AHL defenseman. At least in the Hall trade Edmonton got a useful piece back.

Also the Eberle debacle. Nothing useful in return AND a $3.1M cap hit. This one at least has a chance at partial redemption as Spooner has a history of scoring at top-6 rates and he isn't in an age-related decline, but until then it's a worse trade than the Hall deal.

23 janv. 2019 à 9 h 20

ajc

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Guys there is no defending his actions he is terrible, I am a Bruins fan and he almost destroyed the franchise. They won a cup thank God for Julien and Tim Thomas.

23 janv. 2019 à 9 h 21

Joffe16

Démarrer sujet

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Quoting: kopakola

I’m sorry, but did you really mean to say the Hall trade was the worst trade in league history? Edmonton has never made a worse trade?

Gretzky trade was bad but we LITERALLY TRADE A LEAGUE MVP for a bottom pair defenseman.

Quoting: CD282

1. Lucic Contract (6 x 7, might be worst Contract in league history easily the worst right now)

Kesler's is worse - more money, same term, less production, injury-prone.

I would rather have some guy being injured all year then have Lucic getting no points and racking up PIMs on the fourth line

Quoting: CD282

The Sekera contract wasn't a bad one, he was full value for that money until he got injured. The injury isn't Chiarelli's fault (I can't believe I'm defending Chiarelli here!!).

Regardless, the deal has ended up horribly, he never should’ve given that old of a player six years with that kind of cap hit

23 janv. 2019 à 9 h 31

#10

kopakola

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Quoting: Joffe16

Gretzky trade was bad but we LITERALLY TRADE A LEAGUE MVP for a bottom pair defenseman.

I would rather have some guy being injured all year then have Lucic getting no points and racking up PIMs on the fourth line

Regardless, the deal has ended up horribly, he never should’ve given that old of a player six years with that kind of cap hit

You’re saying trading a guy that didn’t win MVP until after he was traded, and went from a PPG to under for two years before the trade, is worse than a guys that was hitting 160 points before and after the trade? Larsson with Greene was the best shut down d pair before the trade.

23 janv. 2019 à 9 h 45

#11

CD282

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Don't forget the 2nd round pick in the 2017 draft that the Oilers had to give Boston just for hiring Chiarelli - even though PC had been fired from Boston for sucking at his job.

23 janv. 2019 à 9 h 47

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Joffe16

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Quoting: kopakola

The Gretzky trade is definitely second place. The players and pieces the oilers acquired for more points than Gretzky ever did for the kings. It doesn’t matter when he got the mvp, he is the second best left winger in the league easily and what is the opera biggest need right now? Wingers!!! Taylor Hall is so fast and skilled the fact that we got a slow, defensive dman for him who, if you watched the past three games, is absolutely TERRIBLE at defense. For example in the Calgary game, a 5-2 loss Larsson was on for four goals against, abd two he was directly responsible for. He is absolute crap.

23 janv. 2019 à 9 h 48

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CD282

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Quoting: Joffe16

Gretzky trade was bad but we LITERALLY TRADE A LEAGUE MVP for a bottom pair defenseman.

I would rather have some guy being injured all year then have Lucic getting no points and racking up PIMs on the fourth line

Regardless, the deal has ended up horribly, he never should’ve given that old of a player six years with that kind of cap hit

Kesler's production when healthy is FAR below Lucic's. And again, the Sekera injury is not Chiarelli's fault. Sometimes it turns out that way, the GM has literally ZERO control over if a player gets injured. If McDavid sustains a career-ending injury, do you fire the GM for signing that contract? That's just stupid.

23 janv. 2019 à 10 h 1

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CD282

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Quoting: kopakola

Yeah, I hate the Hall trade as much as the next guy, but his boxcars in his last two EDM seasons weren't MVP-worthy:

53, 14-24-38
82, 26-39-65

His first season in NJ wasn't phenomenal either:

72, 20-33-53

Great player, an uneven trade from the moment it was announced made worse by Hall winning MVP in his second year with the new team - but not the worst trade Chiarelli has made and not even close to the worst all-time.

23 janv. 2019 à 10 h 15

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kopakola

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Quoting: Joffe16

You’re comparing the point production of 3 guys vs 1 lol as far as Larsson goes, it seems like defense is always a problem there, so maybe it’s the system? Hard to find consistency when you have 3 coaches in 4 years

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