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Équipe: 2018-19 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 16 janv. 2019
Publié: 16 janv. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Flip rask and kuokkanen
Transactions
1.
CHI
  1. Rask, Victor (500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (BUF)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (CAR)
2.
VAN
  1. Kuokkanen, Janne
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (CAR)
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2019 (CGY)
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Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2018
2019
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2020
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2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2379 500 000 $63 509 166 $0 $4 132 500 $15 990 834 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 860 000 $2 860 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
746 667 $746 667 $ (Bonis de performance70 000 $$70K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
675 000 $675 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
UFA - 7
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
850 000 $850 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
715 000 $715 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
695 000 $695 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
887 500 $887 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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16 janv. 2019 à 8 h 17
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Overpay for Goldobin but the rask for Anisimov trade basis I like although I still think it's an overpay
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16 janv. 2019 à 8 h 27
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Overpay for Goldobin but the rask for Anisimov trade basis I like although I still think it's an overpay


Maybe a bit of an over pay for goldobin, but its more for them to take Rask.
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16 janv. 2019 à 8 h 32
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Overpay for Goldobin but the rask for Anisimov trade basis I like although I still think it's an overpay


The AA Rask trade is indeed interesting. It was rumored that years ago CHI was interested in Victor Rask. I'm not sure if that was a Q preference or Bowman. Ultimately, I think CHI would pull the trigger if the rumors were about Bowman looking into Rask. If it was Q...probably not because we need Colliton guys now. For me, the hard part is that Rask will still cost $3.5M for 3.5 more years. It's a risk, but I do see the 2nd and 4th which ultimately IMO would make up for that risk.
16 janv. 2019 à 9 h 40
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Why are we trading Kuokkanen (a prospect on the rise) plus picks for Goldobin (a player who hasn’t performed at NHL level when given opportunity). Kuokkanen needs more time in AHL and could make impact next year, or he should be included in a trade package for a better player (hoping for Vlad STL).
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16 janv. 2019 à 9 h 59
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Both teams say yes. You could even just do Kuokkanen and a second or third for Goldy.
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16 janv. 2019 à 10 h 34
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Why are we trading Kuokkanen (a prospect on the rise) plus picks for Goldobin (a player who hasn’t performed at NHL level when given opportunity). Kuokkanen needs more time in AHL and could make impact next year, or he should be included in a trade package for a better player (hoping for Vlad STL).


Unpopular Opinion: Kuokkanen is over rated.
16 janv. 2019 à 10 h 38
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If he’s ‘overrated’ then why are we advocating selling low. My point is more the value of the trade, and less the quality of the players. You are agreeing we should trade an overvalued prospect and picks for an unproven commodity. Bad asset management.

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Unpopular Opinion: Kuokkanen is over rated.
16 janv. 2019 à 10 h 48
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If he’s ‘overrated’ then why are we advocating selling low. My point is more the value of the trade, and less the quality of the players. You are agreeing we should trade an overvalued prospect and picks for an unproven commodity. Bad asset management.


How is he unproven?? Has played over 40 games this season and has 23 points... which would rank about 5th on the Canes atm. Goldobin < Kuok
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16 janv. 2019 à 10 h 50
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Funny typo

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Goldobin < Kuok
16 janv. 2019 à 10 h 51
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Why are we trading Kuokkanen (a prospect on the rise) plus picks for Goldobin (a player who hasn’t performed at NHL level when given opportunity). Kuokkanen needs more time in AHL and could make impact next year, or he should be included in a trade package for a better player (hoping for Vlad STL).


Zero points in 11 games and he's a playmaker. Not saying that he'll never be good, but an just because you light up the AHL doesn't mean that you have a ton of value. Goldy scored more in the AHL than Kuokkanen and so did Mangiapane. Don't get me wrong, Kuokkanen is solid, and probably an A prospect, but until you can score at an NHL level, AHL scoring doesn't give you much value. Goldobin hasn't been a stud, but he's on track for 40+ points.
17 janv. 2019 à 4 h 29
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Zero points in 11 games and he's a playmaker. Not saying that he'll never be good, but an just because you light up the AHL doesn't mean that you have a ton of value. Goldy scored more in the AHL than Kuokkanen and so did Mangiapane. Don't get me wrong, Kuokkanen is solid, and probably an A prospect, but until you can score at an NHL level, AHL scoring doesn't give you much value. Goldobin hasn't been a stud, but he's on track for 40+ points.


Name 1 of his line mates I'll give you $10000000 no cheating...
No?
Clark Bishop and Brock McGinn, sometimes you need good players to produce, at minimum players who can produce in their own right. He's a playmaker and neither can finish
17 janv. 2019 à 7 h 43
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Name 1 of his line mates I'll give you $10000000 no cheating...
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Clark Bishop and Brock McGinn, sometimes you need good players to produce, at minimum players who can produce in their own right. He's a playmaker and neither can finish


He hasn't got an ideal start in the NHL, I agree. Neither has Mangiapane. Which is why I like expansion teams. They help give players like that an opportunity. Still, Hartman was scoring at Goldobin's rate and got quite a haul. If you are a young roster player who can put up decent points, your value is higher than prospects who are still in the AHL. I love Kuokkanen as a player, and I'd honestly risk trading Goldobin straight up for him, but his value isn't as high as his potential. Would you trade Saarela and Poturalski for Goldobin?
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He hasn't got an ideal start in the NHL, I agree. Neither has Mangiapane. Which is why I like expansion teams. They help give players like that an opportunity. Still, Hartman was scoring at Goldobin's rate and got quite a haul. If you are a young roster player who can put up decent points, your value is higher than prospects who are still in the AHL. I love Kuokkanen as a player, and I'd honestly risk trading Goldobin straight up for him, but his value isn't as high as his potential. Would you trade Saarela and Poturalski for Goldobin?


I would trade both of them for Goldobin. I dont think Potualski makes it to the NHL, Saarela could be a third liner. Thats just what I see.
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