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Trade Deadline Moves

Créé par: BlueSeeker
Date de création initiale: jan 14, 2019
Publié: 14 jan 2019 à 20 h 00
Équipe: 2018-19 Canucks de Vancouver
Explications
Please offer constructive criticism. Let me know why you think a trade is bad. Only comment if you have a brain. If your a Habs fan please don't comment. If you are a Canucks fan wondering why we should sell when we are in a playoff spot, give your head a shake. We aren't nearly good enough yet and need to continue building for the future. A first round exit will do nothing for us.
Transactions
VAN
  1. Kulikov, Dmitry
  2. 2019 1e round pick (WPG)
  3. 2019 4e round pick (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
Vancouver gets the low first for Edler and Kulikov gets dumped with a 4th round pick
WPG
  1. Edler, Alexander (2 500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Edler will upgrade the Jets Left D by playing on the second pairing.
VAN
  1. Burakovsky, André
Détails additionnels:
Both players need a change of scenery. They are both the same type of player. I seriously don't want to hear nonsense about one being better than the other. If you are going to post such a thing please f**k off,
WSH
  1. Goldobin, Nikolay
VAN
  1. 2019 4e round pick (BUF)
  2. 2019 5e round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Granlund, Markus
Détails additionnels:
Not entirely sure what the value is here but it seems close enough. I think Pittsburgh could use a guy like Grandlund for their playoff run.
VAN
  1. McKenna, Mike
Détails additionnels:
Waiver Claim
PHI
    Stop hoarding goaltenders you greedy bastards.
    VAN
    1. 2020 6e round pick (DAL)
    DAL
    1. Del Zotto, Michael (1 500 000 $ retained)
    Détails additionnels:
    Cheap depth for any team willing to take Del Zotto. This could be any team really
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Alexander Edler: 2 500 000 $ (50%)
    • Michael Del Zotto: 1 500 000 $ (66.67%)
    • Roberto Luongo: 800 000 $ (15%)
    • Michael Del Zotto: 750 000 $ (25%)
    Frais appliqués
    • Roberto Luongo: 0 $
    Enfoui
    • Sam Gagner: 1 810 000 $ (2 835 000 $)
    • Tom Pyatt: 75 000 $ (1 100 000 $)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2018
    2019
    VAN
    WPG
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    WPG
    BUF
    VAN
    PIT
    VAN
    OTT
    WSH
    VAN
    2020
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    DAL
    VAN
    2021
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2279 500 000 $71 291 180 $852 847 $6 550 000 $8 208 820 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    WSH
    Burakovsky, André
    3 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    VAN
    Pettersson, Elias
    925 000 $
    C
    RFA - 3
    VAN
    Boeser, Brock
    925 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    VAN
    Baertschi, Sven
    3 366 666 $
    AG
    UFA - 3
    VAN
    Horvat, Bo
    5 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 5
    VAN
    Virtanen, Jake
    1 250 000 $
    AD, AG
    RFA - 2
    VAN
    Roussel, Antoine
    3 000 000 $
    AG
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    VAN
    Sutter, Brandon
    4 375 000 $
    AD, C
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    VAN
    Eriksson, Loui
    6 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    VAN
    Motte, Tyler
    925 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    VAN
    Beagle, Jay
    3 000 000 $
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    VAN
    Leivo, Josh
    925 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    VAN
    Hutton, Ben
    2 800 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    VAN
    Stecher, Troy
    2 325 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Markström, Jacob
    3 666 667 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    WPG
    Kulikov, Dmitry
    4 333 333 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Tanev, Christopher
    4 450 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Demko, Thatcher
    925 000 $
    G
    RFA - 1
    VAN
    Pouliot, Derrick
    1 100 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    VAN
    Gudbranson, Erik
    4 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    VAN
    Schaller, Tim
    1 900 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Laplante, Yan-Pavel
    836 667 $
    C
    UFA - 1
    VAN
    Biega, Alex
    825 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Dorsett, Derek
    2 650 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1

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    14 jan 2019 à 20 h 02
    #1
    Retired V2 V3 GM
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    I like all these deals. They all seem fair value and make total sense.

    5 Stars, I like it! cheers
    BlueSeeker et Booyah a aimé ceci.
    14 jan 2019 à 20 h 20
    #2
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    Like them all but I think the Winnipeg deal should be probably be at least 3rd instead of 4th. I think Edler alone would get a late first + B prospect. Taking on $4.3M next year and 1/2 of Edler's salary this year, should get maybe a B+ prospect.

    But well done otherwise.
    BlueSeeker et Booyah a aimé ceci.
    14 jan 2019 à 20 h 24
    #3
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    I like the penguins trade. Hard to put a value on it though. Maybe a 3rd is what I was thinking. He I think he would fit in there on a lower line. But you may have to take some cap space back like Sheahan, his deal is over at the end of the year though so there is nothing to carry going forward..
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    14 jan 2019 à 20 h 26
    #4
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    Quoting: sedin33
    Like them all but I think the Winnipeg deal should be probably be at least 3rd instead of 4th. I think Edler alone would get a late first + B prospect. Taking on $4.3M next year and 1/2 of Edler's salary this year, should get maybe a B+ prospect.

    But well done otherwise.


    Thank you for your input. I think Jim and Chevy would probably have a back and fourth about squeezing in some extra value. I hope it ends well for the Canucks though.

    Quoting: pharrow
    I like the penguins trade. Hard to put a value on it though. Maybe a 3rd is what I was thinking. He I think he would fit in there on a lower line. But you may have to take some cap space back like Sheahan, his deal is over at the end of the year though so there is nothing to carry going forward..


    The Canucks would totally take Sheahan if Cap space is an issue to get a deal like that done. Thank you for your input.
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    14 jan 2019 à 21 h 36
    #5
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    I like these deals. Make perfect sense for a rebuilding franchise. The Goldobin trade does make sense. Both guys need a change and they both have a decently high ceiling. I like that you think the Canucks shouldnt go for a playoff spot. We need to he bad this year so that we can do well in the draft lottery. No sense in making a playoff push and get out in first round when we have better chance later on
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    15 jan 2019 à 0 h 00
    #6
    Rejoint: jan 2018
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    Intriguing.

    First off, you can't ask for constructive criticism then tell people to eff off for commenting a very possible truth. Burakovsky has the potential for a higher ceiling. Not saying he's better, those two are quite similar, but it would take more than one for one, however, it could potentially be just a mid-round pick going to WSH. It completely depends on how they view Goldy.

    I would say the same thing with Edler. Fans usually value their players higher than the actual league so I don't think he would get that much back. That being said, the team's and trade ( in principle) does make sense and like it.

    Love the Granny trade, it lines up with Shero's tendency to make a trade for trading's sake.

    Laughed at the Philly claim. Give him back for christ's sake!

    I'd take a 7th for MDZ, so a 6th would be fantastic!
     
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