All in = Brock Nelson? Doesn't seem like an all-in move

I really like Grizz, and I think the bruins should hold on to him rather than lose him for a rental. He takes Chara’s spot next year if the big man decides to retire and maybe slots into the first PP unit if krug is moved. I’d rather trade someone like Moore over Grizz.

To put it in perspective I think the Bruins were all-in last season when they traded 3 good assets for the shrinking rental Rick Nash. They targeted him and basically only him so they paid a pretty big price to get the player. I wasn't meaning to suggest they would be all in as most people on this site would make their mock. Those mocks are typically stupid and usually consist of trading 10+ players / picks to get back 3. It's unrealistic and a waste of time to read in most cases.

I don't think Panarin or Duchene will be options. Mark Stone could be the 1 guy who's a bigger realistic rental but Ottawa might not want to deal him within the division. A cost controlled top 4 defenseman who's still got unfulfilled potential for a rental is an all in move in my opinion in realistic terms because you're giving up a very good core piece + a pick for a guy who'll play less than 40 games for your team if not resigned.




I like Grzelcyk too, but I think management will want to keep Krug. I also think Chara has a chance to come back next season. I don't trade Moore because the UFA ramifications; What player would want to sign with your team if you bid on them if you're just going to turn around and trade them before even a full season has passed? It'd just look really bad to move Moore even though I like Grzelcyk better.

I hope the pairings end up:
Chara/ McAvoy
Grzelcyk / Carlo or Moore
Krug / Carlo or Moore

I just have a felling management loves Kevan Miller and the dependable no thrills game he brings.

Mark Stone would be what I consider an all in move because itll take a ransom for Ottawa to move him within the division. He like Nash though could be a rental. A top 6 of Marchand - Krejci - Pastrnak / DeBrusk - Bergeron - Stone would be insane. He'd be my first choice but idk Boston would give up what OTT would want especially if he doesn't come signed

I love Stone and think he'd be a great addition. I also agree it's more of an all in move. I didn't make this thread for it to be a bait and switch instead I was looking at it more from the Bruins perspective by moving a top 4 defenseman for a pure rental unless they somehow came up with 5-6M more than they'll have if they only move Backes to resign Nelson.

I think I made a Mark Stone thread the 1st one I did but Its not on my list. The first reply said something like "Mark Stone isn't being traded in the Division, they put a priority on moving their players west" and there was little to no other action on it. I'll probably end up doing another one at some point but I kind of agree that it seems like Ottawa tries to move their players to the western conference.

It's not untrue though. OTT was pissed that SJ moved Hoffman back East and that's why they included a conditional pick in the Karlsson deal (another 1st to OTT of SJ trades Karlsson to the east). Its a terrible way to operate a team, but OTT clearly doesn't have a great brain trust and it doesn't help they have a cheap owner

You're totally right. It would be a pretty unpleasant trade if Moore is moved. But with all the injuries this year, we have seen that the young D who weren't expected to be NHL ready (Vaak, Lauzon, Clifton) can definitely hold their own and I just don't think Moore is needed anymore. It won't happen, but I think it makes a lot of sense disregarding the morality of it all.

And even then we still have an extra D man in Miller... I suppose this is a good problem to have.

If they're trading Grizz, I wouldn't want a solid rental in return. This makes the team worse.