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Créé par: KingLundqvist30
Équipe: 2018-19 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 18 déc. 2018
Publié: 18 déc. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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NYR
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (EDM)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (EDM)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2379 500 000 $74 889 026 $0 $2 182 500 $4 610 974 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 625 000 $4 625 000 $
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UFA - 2
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5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
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2 275 000 $2 275 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 3
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 2
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1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 5
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894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
C, AG
UFA - 3
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3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 700 000 $5 700 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 3
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4 350 000 $4 350 000 $
DG/DD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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792 500 $792 500 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
G
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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708 750 $708 750 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
RFA - 3

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18 déc. 2018 à 16 h 15
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Quoting: dylanstoik
See that's where you are wrong buddy, having good corsi doesn't mean you are a good defensman, that's one of the dumbest thing i've ever heard, advanced stats are useless, actually watch them play instead of looking at that crap. Shattenkirk is most definitely not the best D-man in New York, any educated hockey fan will tell you that.


Corsi is an "advanced stat" now? Last I checked it was just a counting stat.
19 déc. 2018 à 11 h 5
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I watch every game. The only other defenseman that you could make an argument for is Claesson. The fact that you think advanced stats don't matter means you have no idea what you're talking about.


I seriously doubt that you watch the Rangers... Neal Pionk, and Brady Skjei are both defiinetely better than Shattenkirk, and you bringing up Claesson just shows how clueless you are. I along with a lot of knowledgeable hockey fans don't pay attention to advanced stats very much, its not that they necessarily don't matter, its just that they aren't a proper way of evaluating a player whatsoever, especially in cases like this, you literally said, he has the best corsi which means hes the best defenseman, that is such a stupid thing to say.
19 déc. 2018 à 11 h 8
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Quoting: CD282
Corsi is an "advanced stat" now? Last I checked it was just a counting stat.


No, it is obviously an advanced stat, and it always has been...
19 déc. 2018 à 11 h 17
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I seriously doubt that you watch the Rangers... Neal Pionk, and Brady Skjei are both defiinetely better than Shattenkirk, and you bringing up Claesson just shows how clueless you are. I along with a lot of knowledgeable hockey fans don't pay attention to advanced stats very much, its not that they necessarily don't matter, its just that they aren't a proper way of evaluating a player whatsoever, especially in cases like this, you literally said, he has the best corsi which means hes the best defenseman, that is such a stupid thing to say.


Neal Pionk is pretty good offensively, but he's a defensive liability. He gets his stats boosted by being put on the top PP unit and getting secondary assists whenever someone scores. He is the worst defensively outside of Marc Staal.

Brady Skjei has his moments, but he has made countless errors this season that someone in their third season should not be making. The coaching staff has acknowledged this and he's been a healthy scratch for multiple games. He had a stellar freshman season and has been mediocre since.

Claesson doesn't do anything flashy and that's probably why you haven't noticed him. He is excellent at blocking shots and breaking up plays.

Just because you hear someone's name a lot doesn't mean they're good.
19 déc. 2018 à 11 h 31
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Quoting: aspina25
Neal Pionk is pretty good offensively, but he's a defensive liability. He gets his stats boosted by being put on the top PP unit and getting secondary assists whenever someone scores. He is the worst defensively outside of Marc Staal.

Brady Skjei has his moments, but he has made countless errors this season that someone in their third season should not be making. The coaching staff has acknowledged this and he's been a healthy scratch for multiple games. He had a stellar freshman season and has been mediocre since.

Claesson doesn't do anything flashy and that's probably why you haven't noticed him. He is excellent at blocking shots and breaking up plays.

Just because you hear someone's name a lot doesn't mean they're good.


I understand Claesson is a good stay at home defensman, but hes nothing more then a third pairing guy, I am not hating on him.

You call Pionk and Staal defensive liabilities, but according to Hockey Reference's point share system, Pionk and Staal are 1 and 2 in defensive contributions, They are also 1 and 2 in defensive zone starts among NYR D-men, and they are the go-to pairing on the Pk, so how exactly a defensive liability? Also Pionk is the leading shot blocker on the rangers btw.
 
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