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Draft Day Trade

Créé par: Dan_da_Man
Équipe: 2016-17 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 9 mai 2016
Publié: 11 mai 2016
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This trade was made having insider information that Stamkos is coming.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 000 000 $
32 000 000 $
2800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
79 500 000 $
Transactions
TOR
  1. Domi, Max
  2. Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
Détails additionnels:
2016 1st round pick - 22nd OA
ARI
  1. Bozak, Tyler
  2. Michalek, Milan
Détails additionnels:
2016 1st round pick - 1st OA
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2374 000 000 $68 170 333 $512 000 $4 265 000 $5 829 667 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 8
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 2
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
C, AD
UFA - 2
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
UFA - 6
686 667 $686 667 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
736 666 $736 666 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
AD
UFA - 2
2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 2
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
G
UFA - 1
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
G
UFA - 2
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 4
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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11 mai 2016 à 6 h 59
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Stamkos isn't signing with any Canadian team for less than 12 million per.
11 mai 2016 à 7 h 59
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Halla
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^ what a dumb comment. I guess he will take 9 for an American team, but his hometown team better pay up. hard to take someone with "leafhater" in their title seriously
11 mai 2016 à 8 h 33
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Bad enough to make such as is supposedly such a dumb comment, but then not having the thought to add a comment why he would make such a statement. Sounds like politican," I know what's wrong, but I am don't have any answers to what is right." (quinnjj comment)
11 mai 2016 à 8 h 51
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Stamkos isn't signing anywhere for that. American or Canadian.
11 mai 2016 à 9 h 19
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Quoting: Halla
^ what a dumb comment. I guess he will take 9 for an American team, but his hometown team better pay up. hard to take someone with "leafhater" in their title seriously


Not really. It would be shocking if he accepts less money to play in Canada. The difference in tax rates is substantial. I have seen the numbers and they aren't promising if he wants to get paid market value.
11 mai 2016 à 9 h 36
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Quoting: leafs1967again
Quoting: Halla
^ what a dumb comment. I guess he will take 9 for an American team, but his hometown team better pay up. hard to take someone with "leafhater" in their title seriously


Not really. It would be shocking if he accepts less money to play in Canada. The difference in tax rates is substantial. I have seen the numbers and they aren't promising if he wants to get paid market value.


All contracts are in american dollars, as it stands a $10,000,000 contract in Toronto would pay $12,900,000 in Canadian dollars. The difference in tax rates between Florida (lowest tax in the NHL) and Toronto is far lower than 29% thus making it more financially feasible to accept less money to go to Canada.
11 mai 2016 à 9 h 44
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You're right leafs1967. Taxes that most many pro athletes pay is LESS in Canada.
Here's the lesson. Pro athletes do not pay taxes like mortal people. Their salary is paid into their personal corporation. It is not personal income tax. Canadian corporate tax rate is 15%, the US corporate tax rate is 35%.
Only when a money is withdrawn from this corporate to pay the "employee", that money is a personal tax. A guy making $ 600,000 might have a good portion of good portion of his taxes paid to him as personal income tax
A "entertainer" making $ 10 million. lets says wants to spend 1 million a year. He has withdraw lets say 1.75m in Canada to do clear 1 million. In Florida he might have to withdraw 1.5m to have 1 million in net personal income tax. But he has another 8m a year invested and taxed at 15% in Canada, 35% in the US.
With the all the other income a player makes, the amount he can put in his "corporation" is substantial. I know a NHLer who has played 12 years in the NHL. ALL of NHLhis salary has gone into his corporation. He has lived on the "side" income to pay for his household expenses....house, cars, raising a family.
11 mai 2016 à 9 h 59
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Quoting: americanandian
Quoting: leafs1967again
Quoting: Halla
^ what a dumb comment. I guess he will take 9 for an American team, but his hometown team better pay up. hard to take someone with "leafhater" in their title seriously


Not really. It would be shocking if he accepts less money to play in Canada. The difference in tax rates is substantial. I have seen the numbers and they aren't promising if he wants to get paid market value.


All contracts are in american dollars, as it stands a $10,000,000 contract in Toronto would pay $12,900,000 in Canadian dollars. The difference in tax rates between Florida (lowest tax in the NHL) and Toronto is far lower than 29% thus making it more financially feasible to accept less money to go to Canada.


Not sure where you are going with this. I trust tax experts who have been consulted over you, though. You are definitely wrong.
11 mai 2016 à 10 h 1
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You're right leafs1967. Taxes that most many pro athletes pay is LESS in Canada.
Here's the lesson. Pro athletes do not pay taxes like mortal people. Their salary is paid into their personal corporation. It is not personal income tax. Canadian corporate tax rate is 15%, the US corporate tax rate is 35%.
Only when a money is withdrawn from this corporate to pay the "employee", that money is a personal tax. A guy making $ 600,000 might have a good portion of good portion of his taxes paid to him as personal income tax
A "entertainer" making $ 10 million. lets says wants to spend 1 million a year. He has withdraw lets say 1.75m in Canada to do clear 1 million. In Florida he might have to withdraw 1.5m to have 1 million in net personal income tax. But he has another 8m a year invested and taxed at 15% in Canada, 35% in the US.
With the all the other income a player makes, the amount he can put in his "corporation" is substantial. I know a NHLer who has played 12 years in the NHL. ALL of NHLhis salary has gone into his corporation. He has lived on the "side" income to pay for his household expenses....house, cars, raising a family.


http://www.torontosun.com/2016/04/12/taxing-issue-for-nhl-players-when-it-comes-to-contract-offers

You have to remember that there will be issues with cross border taxation. Corporations in the US are taxes higher than personal taxes (in most cases). In Canada, it is the opposite. Lots to consider here...
11 mai 2016 à 14 h 10
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Lmfao free tax lessons in CapFriendly, I could see Stamkos signing in TO, but I really don't think TO is paying market price, they'll get him at a discount or not at all, and that's exactly what I'd want them to do
11 mai 2016 à 15 h 44
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Stammer will probably sign anywhere in the 9-11M range (USD). It not a matter of money with Stamkos's next contract though. Yes he's going to want close to fair value but its going to be more important where does he want to spend the next 7 years of his career? If his choices come down to NJ @ 11M, Tor @ 10M or Ari @ 10.5M, he most certainly is going to consider T.O since its his hometown team. The only chance he goes below market value is if he wants to stay in TB with a team that will be a perennial cup contender and is proving it again this year.
11 mai 2016 à 17 h 58
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Not sure where you are going with this. I trust tax experts who have been consulted over you, though. You are definitely wrong.[/quote]

I'm saying that the Canadian dollar is so low that it makes Canada a more attractive free agent destination if players are strictly looking at dollars.
 
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