What do you EDM fans want for Larsson in 2019 preseason

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Créé par: SammyT_51

Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 6 déc. 2018

Publié: 6 déc. 2018

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Brown, Zaitsev and 2nd (either in 2019 or 2020, it is a draft trade) is my idea. And they are NOT cap throw-ins.. geez. Zaitsev would fit well with Klefbom, getting help of a better puck mover (Larsson is very good puck mover as well but I see Zaitsev as a bit better one) and Brown would be perfect winger for McDavid and would likely score between 25-30. Would you do it?

Also instead of hating on deal, add serious counteroffer.

Also yes I decided to keep Hainsey for 1 more year. He is very good defensive security and him with Liljegren would form a nice little pairing to help Liljegren with translation into NHL.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Sparks, Garret	2	850 000 $
Ozhiganov, Igor	2	1 125 000 $
Borgman, Andreas	1	800 000 $
Rosén, Calle	1	800 000 $
Kapanen, Kasperi	3	3 333 333 $
Marner, Mitchell	8	9 000 000 $
Klimchuk, Morgan	2	700 000 $
Carcone, Michael	2	700 000 $
Moore, Trevor	2	800 000 $
Johnsson, Andreas	2	1 750 000 $
Matthews, Auston	8	12 000 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Lindholm, Pär		1	1 000 000 $
Hainsey, Ron		1	1 000 000 $

Transactions

TOR

Larsson, Adam

EDM

Brown, Connor
Zaitsev, Nikita
Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (TOR)

Rachats de contrats

Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	82 000 000 $	76 333 475 $	0 $	470 000 $	5 666 525 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Kapanen, Kasperi 3 333 333 $3 333 333 $ AD UFA - 3	Matthews, Auston 12 000 000 $12 000 000 $ C UFA - 5	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 5
Hyman, Zach 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 2	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 6	Marner, Mitchell 9 000 000 $9 000 000 $ AD UFA - 6
Marleau, Patrick 700 000 $700 000 $ AG, C UFA - 1	Kadri, Nazem 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 3	Johnsson, Andreas 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4
Grundström, Carl 925 000 $925 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1	Lindholm, Pär 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG, C UFA - 2	Moore, Trevor 800 000 $800 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG UFA - 3	Larsson, Adam 4 166 666 $4 166 666 $ DD UFA - 2	Andersen, Frederik 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Dermott, Travis 863 333 $863 333 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Ozhiganov, Igor 1 125 000 $1 125 000 $ DD UFA
Hainsey, Ron 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Liljegren, Timothy 863 333 $863 333 $ (400 000 $$400K) DD RFA - 3	Sparks, Garret 850 000 $850 000 $ G UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Gauthier, Frédérik 675 000 $675 000 $ C UFA - 1		Horton, Nathan 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Timashov, Dmytro 694 444 $694 444 $ (70 000 $$70K) AG UFA - 1
Holl, Justin 675 000 $675 000 $ DD UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Marleau, P.		Tavares, J.		Matthews, A.
	Marner, M.		Rielly, M.

Avantage numérique 2
Grundström, C.		Kadri, N.		Johnsson, A.
	Nylander, W.		Liljegren, T.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Hyman, Z.	Kapanen, K.
	Hainsey, R.	Larsson, A.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Lindholm, P.	Moore, T.
	Dermott, T.	Ozhiganov, I.

6 déc. 2018 à 11 h 48

Lenny7

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Not going to argue whether Zaitsev or Brown are cap dump/throw ins, but this is the old "quantity over quality" story. Zaitsev isn't bad, and neither is Brown, but both of those guys are the type of players that the Oilers can get as UFA's this summer, and can likely get cheaper/better terms on.

Chia already lost one Larsson trade, I can't imagine he wants to do it again.

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6 déc. 2018 à 11 h 51

EthanBearForVezina

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As an Oilers fan, I’d gladly accept this trade.

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6 déc. 2018 à 11 h 53

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Quoting: Lenny7

And I take that argument, it makes sense. I think Brown is on a very good deal if he is great with McDavid and can be longerterm solution as well. I just wanted counteroffers.

6 déc. 2018 à 11 h 55

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Swap out Zaitsev for something cheaper then I would say this is a good deal. Edmontons cap situation is dire, they can't afford to take back 3 mill.

6 déc. 2018 à 11 h 55

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Quoting: EthanBearForVezina

As an Oilers fan, I’d gladly accept this trade.

GREAT!!

6 déc. 2018 à 11 h 56

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So chirelli turned Taylor hall into a bottom 6 winger; a bottom pairing D, and a 2nd?
Chirelli won’t Trade larsson, and even if he did, that package isn’t enough

6 déc. 2018 à 11 h 57

Lenny7

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Quoting: SammyT_51

And I take that argument, it makes sense. I think Brown is on a very good deal if he is great with McDavid and can be longerterm solution as well. I just wanted counteroffers.

For sure. I mean, the value could well be there. What about Kap+something?

6 déc. 2018 à 11 h 57

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Quoting: Shibbal18

Swap out Zaitsev for something cheaper then I would say this is a good deal. Edmonton cap situation is dire, they can't afford to take back 3 mill.

They would take 2.5 back but still they actually for 2019/20 season they can.

6 déc. 2018 à 11 h 57

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Quoting: Lenny7

I agree with this thinking too. Edmonton would be more interested in a player like Johnsson, a quick winger who can play up and down the lineup. The issue is that he's a 'key' player for Toronto in that he will be on a cheaper contract which will help them next year.

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6 déc. 2018 à 11 h 59

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Quoting: RedDevils24

Yeah, that's why I figured maybe Kapanen...IMO he's in line for a Reinhart-type bridge deal ($3.something/2-3 years).

6 déc. 2018 à 12 h 8

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Connor Brown would work on McDavids wing but Kapanen works too.

6 déc. 2018 à 12 h 17

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Quoting: EthanBearForVezina

Connor Brown would work on McDavids wing but Kapanen works too.

Kapanen has the speed to play with McDavid and Brown the high level of physicality and scoring to be McDavids perfect winger.

6 déc. 2018 à 12 h 21

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if the leafs wanted larsson the starting point is kapanen. after that probably throw in a second and you have a deal. the oilers best RW rn is caggula or puljijarvi. kapanen would slide in nice with mcdavid (fastest duo in the league) and could be a 30+ goal scorer with mcdavid. I dont think they bite on a package they want a good player back themselves and zaitsev and brown just arnt good enough imo for them to genuinly believe the trade would benefit their team.

6 déc. 2018 à 12 h 23

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I don't see any way Edmonton's GM parts with Larsson for anything other than a young top-6 or a package of a high draft pick and top prospect. I don't think Larsson gets dealt until a new GM steps in, which I would imagine to be the case if the Oilers miss the playoffs again this spring.

6 déc. 2018 à 12 h 29

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Quoting: Lenny7

Question is, which trade is worse: Larsson for Hall straight up, or Erat and Latte for Forsberg?

6 déc. 2018 à 12 h 33

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Would need money retained on zaitsev and a better winger coming back (think Johnsson)

6 déc. 2018 à 12 h 35

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Quoting: Chopper02

Question is, which trade is worse: Larsson for Hall straight up, or Erat and Latte for Forsberg?

Pretty clearly erat because Washington has nothing to show for that trade and Edmonton has a top 4 defenseman

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7 déc. 2018 à 13 h 0

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Quoting: Chopper02

Question is, which trade is worse: Larsson for Hall straight up, or Erat and Latte for Forsberg?

Hahaha, I think you know the answer to this...

Though at least Forsberg hadn't done anything yet when he was traded, whereas Hall had...I suppose there's an argument for both sides. But yeah, I wonder if George MacPhee got asked about that before Vegas hired him?

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