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Créé par: csick
Équipe: 2018-19 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 27 août 2018
Publié: 27 août 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
OTT
  1. Hanzal, Martin
  2. Heiskanen, Miro
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (DAL)
Détails additionnels:
Conditional 1st on Karlsson re-signing
2.
OTT
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (CAR)
3.
OTT
  1. Tanev, Brandon
  2. Trouba, Jacob
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (WPG)
WPG
  1. Stone, Mark
  2. Wideman, Chris
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (OTT)
4.
5.
SJS
  1. Duchene, Matt
  2. Englund, Andreas
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
Extension in place
6.
OTT
  1. Neuvirth, Michal
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (NJD)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2019
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2020
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Logo de CBJ
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Logo de SJS
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2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2080 000 000 $57 106 943 $0 $7 172 500 $22 893 057 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C
UFA - 4
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AD
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
AG
UFA - 3
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance710 000 $$710K)
C, AG
RFA - 3
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
C
UFA - 2
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
728 333 $728 333 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance360 000 $$360K)
DG
UFA - 2
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
UFA - 3
4 300 000 $4 300 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
G
UFA - 2
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
755 000 $755 000 $ (Bonis de performance70 000 $$70K)
DD
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
4 650 000 $4 650 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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27 août 2018 à 8 h 6
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I will only speak on the Sharks trade, but the others are interesting as well.

Not sure the Sharks want that trade. So you are giving up Hertl, who is only 24, for Duchene who had a bad year last year, and you don't even know if he is a fit with this group? What's the extension worth, $8.00 mil/year? No thanks. I don't like that deal.
27 août 2018 à 9 h 14
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OTT would reject all the trade except the Philly one.

Hanzal has a NTC/NMC he aint waiving for OTT and would need another prospect to go to OTT and Dal had been givin permission to speak to EK in July/August about an extension so one would come is he is trading to DAL

WNG does not need wingers they are flush with them, and Tanev is a 3rd liner, Trouba is NOT worth Stone
27 août 2018 à 9 h 15
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Quoting: mothariah
I will only speak on the Sharks trade, but the others are interesting as well.

Not sure the Sharks want that trade. So you are giving up Hertl, who is only 24, for Duchene who had a bad year last year, and you don't even know if he is a fit with this group? What's the extension worth, $8.00 mil/year? No thanks. I don't like that deal.


I'd probably agree that SJ wouldn't be super into trading Hertl, but i don't think its fair to say MD95 had a bad season. Even with the really bad start in Ottawa, he still put up 27 goals and nearly 60 points.
27 août 2018 à 9 h 29
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
I'd probably agree that SJ wouldn't be super into trading Hertl, but i don't think its fair to say MD95 had a bad season. Even with the really bad start in Ottawa, he still put up 27 goals and nearly 60 points.


We're having the same argument that should have been had in Ottawa before the Matt Duchene trade. They traded a bunch of young futures and Kyle Turris for Matt Duchene. The question is, how much better is Duchene than Turris? On the outside, not much better. Once you start getting down into the detail, Duchene is a better player.

So is Duchene a better player than Tomas Hertl? The short answer is yes, but how much better? If I'm the Sharks, I want Duchene, but not at the cost of Hertl. Doing the Duchene-for-Hertl deal makes the team a lot better, but once you consider taking away Hertl from the Sharks, how much better did they really get? I'll give you Tierney, Donskoi, etc. Honesly, I want Duchene to play WITH Hertl. Same line. Hertl-Couture-Duchene. Ottawa should want the futures, not the players that are in their primes right now. They should want the John Norris or Ryan Merkley or the Dylan Gambrell. They can get more of those, save more money, and be even better in 3-5 years.

Blow the whole thing up. The problem is that Ottawa doesn't want to admit they are bad, they don't want to rebuild. They are losing money, and a rebuild will only drive fans away more. But in order for them to actually have a decent future, they need to trade everything and build it back up. Trade Duchene for a bunch of picks and prospects, not Tomas Hertl. Trade Erik Karlsson (without Bobby Ryan) for the three best prospects you can get out of someone and a couple of picks. Trade Bobby Ryan for another bad contract and a prospect. Trade Mark Stone for a boatload of talent you won't see until after 2020, but will make the team better than it is now.

They got to goalie prospect from Pittsburgh. They have a solid defensive prospect. And they have a couple decent forwards in the development stage. Add more. Look at what the Lightning did by adding Stamkos, Kucherov, Johnson, Point, Killorn, Palat, Droiun, etc. as they rebuilt the entire team. They used that to build up their defense around Victor Hedman. Do it right and tear the whole team down, be bad for two years, and make this team the right way.

I'm not saying Duchene was garbage last year, but it wasn't a "good" year by his standards. You're trying to trade him at his lowest value. He looks like a bad influence by being on two horrible teams in a row, and he didn't necessarily blow things up like MacKinnon did last year after Duchene left. He also only has a year on his deal. My point is his value is really low right now, that's all.
 
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