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Créé par: Canadianape
Équipe: 2018-19 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 22 août 2018
Publié: 22 août 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
based on the comments from the three previous Flames Erik Karlsson AGM's

its getting a little wild and out of the realm of realistic but oh well
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
65 200 000 $
Transactions
CGY
  1. Boedker, Mikkel (1 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Karlsson, Erik
  3. Ryan, Bobby (2 500 000 $ retained)
  4. Wideman, Chris
  5. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (OTT)
  6. Choix de 5e ronde en 2019 (OTT)
OTT
  1. Andersson, Rasmus
  2. Frolík, Michael
  3. Hanifin, Noah
  4. Stone, Michael
  5. Tkachuk, Matthew
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
  7. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2019
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Logo de NYI
Logo de OTT
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Logo de CAR
2020
Logo de CGY
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2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2179 500 000 $73 805 876 $0 $425 000 $5 694 124 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
6 375 000 $6 375 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 5
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 6
4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 6
1 950 000 $1 950 000 $
C
UFA - 1
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
850 000 $850 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
1 675 000 $1 675 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
4 650 400 $4 650 400 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
3 375 000 $3 375 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 4
3 857 143 $3 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 2
800 000 $800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
900 000 $900 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
RFA - 3
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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22 août 2018 à 17 h 39
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All that and you out the bes RD in the world in the left?
22 août 2018 à 17 h 40
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Quoting: Caniac2000
All that and you out the bes RD in the world in the left?


wasn't really thinking where they would go that's not the point of this AGM

there fixed it
22 août 2018 à 17 h 43
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wasn't really thinking where they would go that's not the point of this AGM

there fixed it


I’d still personally have Giordano with him but that’s up to you.
22 août 2018 à 17 h 47
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Quoting: Caniac2000
I’d still personally have Giordano with him but that’s up to you.


putting Gio on the second line spreads out the talent a little bit. brodie and hamonic were terrible together last year so breaking up that line combo could be pretty important. line could also be Gio/Brodie and Hamonic/Karlsson which would reunite the power pairing of gio and brodie and harmonic playing with karlsson would be a good combo as well
23 août 2018 à 12 h 31
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not a chance in hell the Flames make this deal. I'm honestly not even sure if the Flames would give up Tkachuk for Karlsson. I mean, they likely would if they knew they could re-sign Karlsson, but no way would they include multiple high end pick+top prospect Andersson+ another top 4 young D-man in Hanafin + TAKE ON THAT HORRIFIC BOBBY RYAN CONTRACT. This isn't even close. I'm sorry, but its so so so poorly thought out.
23 août 2018 à 12 h 44
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not a chance in hell the Flames make this deal. I'm honestly not even sure if the Flames would give up Tkachuk for Karlsson. I mean, they likely would if they knew they could re-sign Karlsson, but no way would they include multiple high end pick+top prospect Andersson+ another top 4 young D-man in Hanafin + TAKE ON THAT HORRIFIC BOBBY RYAN CONTRACT. This isn't even close. I'm sorry, but its so so so poorly thought out.


this is assuming Karlsson signs with Calgary. no team in the league is trading for karlsson with out some reassurance that he is signing.

the picks negate the cap space of Frolik and Stone going back. bodeker, wideman, ryan and the retained salary on both of those guys is definetly fair value for hanifin. and finnaly Tkachuk and anderson for Karlsson (with some value from the rest of the trade) is more than fair. Tkachuk hasn't broken 50 points in his career karlsson is consistently above 60 points and is the best defenseman in the league. andersson is a prospect and from what we've seen so far at best a 3rd pairing defenseman on Calgary. we have other defensive prospects coming up so losing andersson is not that bad. You clearly don't have a clue about hockey if you think this isn't even close. it was well thought out you just clearly are not intelligent enough to see the reasoning.
23 août 2018 à 13 h 42
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Quoting: Canadianape
this is assuming Karlsson signs with Calgary. no team in the league is trading for karlsson with out some reassurance that he is signing.

the picks negate the cap space of Frolik and Stone going back. bodeker, wideman, ryan and the retained salary on both of those guys is definetly fair value for hanifin. and finnaly Tkachuk and anderson for Karlsson (with some value from the rest of the trade) is more than fair. Tkachuk hasn't broken 50 points in his career karlsson is consistently above 60 points and is the best defenseman in the league. andersson is a prospect and from what we've seen so far at best a 3rd pairing defenseman on Calgary. we have other defensive prospects coming up so losing andersson is not that bad. You clearly don't have a clue about hockey if you think this isn't even close. it was well thought out you just clearly are not intelligent enough to see the reasoning.


The Flames had to give up Dougie Hamilton+Fox+Ferland to acquire Hanifin+Lindholm. Trading Hanifin for Boedker Wideman and Bobby Ryan isn't even close to fair value. Boedker+Ryan are both salary dumps and Wideman isn't even close to value.

Try again.
23 août 2018 à 14 h 5
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boedker and ryan are both 35 point guys. ryan 2 seasons removed from being a 50 point guy. wideman is just to fill a roster spot left by hanifin. ryan at 4.75 mil still hurts a little but he could absolutely make that contract worth it. boedker at 2.5 million is a steal.

fox wasn't signing in Calgary so no loss. ferland is a 20 point guy who we sold extremely high on the fact that he played with johnny and monny last year so he isn't much of a loss and finally Hamilton was the only big loss in that trade but it sounds like there was some locker room animosity with him. the whole point of the trade is to get karlsson that is gonna take letting go of big contracts like Tkachuk and hanifin
 
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