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BIG TRADE WITH ISLES, PATCHES SIGNS WITH ISLES

Créé par: habs2323
Équipe: 2018-19 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 17 août 2018
Publié: 17 août 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1650 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony
  2. Leddy, Nick
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2019 (NYI)
NYI
  1. McCarron, Michael
  2. Pacioretty, Max
  3. Scherbak, Nikita
  4. Schlemko, David
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (MTL)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
2.
NJD
  1. Alzner, Karl (1 000 000 $ retained)
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (ANA)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2019
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Logo de ANA
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Logo de CGY
Logo de CHI
Logo de EDM
Logo de NYI
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2020
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2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2379 500 000 $65 393 809 $0 $2 070 000 $14 106 191 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 3
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
839 166 $839 166 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 250 000 $$1M)
C
UFA - 1
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
650 000 $650 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
1 166 667 $1 166 667 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 8
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 8
748 333 $748 333 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
950 000 $950 000 $
G
UFA - 1
725 000 $725 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DD
UFA - 2
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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17 août 2018 à 14 h 23
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Big no from New Jersey.
Lenny7 et puckingseriously a aimé ceci.
17 août 2018 à 14 h 26
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No idea why NYI would make this trade now. What they gain on LW they lose on D. But if they were willing, Habs should probably take it.

Johansson is fine and Alzner would be good for NJ. That said, I'd rather get one of their younger prospects.

JDLR is too good to be given away for a "maybe" pick. A prospect ... sure ... but a pick is too risky.
17 août 2018 à 14 h 52
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Isles are not trading Beauvillier no way no how.
17 août 2018 à 15 h 5
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Johansson is fine and Alzner would be good for NJ. That said, I'd rather get one of their younger prospects.


I doubt Montreal could get the rights to a 4th line beer league player for Alzner let alone ANY prospect.
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17 août 2018 à 16 h 36
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No chance New Jersey, or anyone else would trade a decent asset for Karl Alzner. He's a bad player on a bad contract.
17 août 2018 à 17 h 41
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Quoting: Lenny7
I doubt Montreal could get the rights to a 4th line beer league player for Alzner let alone ANY prospect.


Quoting: puckingseriously
No chance New Jersey, or anyone else would trade a decent asset for Karl Alzner. He's a bad player on a bad contract.


The Alzner that started the year in Montreal was the one you describe. By the second half of the season, by which time Price was shut down, Alzner was not a weakness. He logs big minutes and plays a smart game. After spending his entire career in Washington, he needed time to adjust to the new system in Montreal -- everyone did. Ignoring the contract, there are only a small handful of teams that are deep enough that they couldn't use Alzner. If the Habs eat part of that contract, he would be well sought after.

It's getting a little tiresome. Habs haters need to get some perspective.
18 août 2018 à 11 h 33
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The Alzner that started the year in Montreal was the one you describe. By the second half of the season, by which time Price was shut down, Alzner was not a weakness. He logs big minutes and plays a smart game. After spending his entire career in Washington, he needed time to adjust to the new system in Montreal -- everyone did. Ignoring the contract, there are only a small handful of teams that are deep enough that they couldn't use Alzner. If the Habs eat part of that contract, he would be well sought after.

It's getting a little tiresome. Habs haters need to get some perspective.


So, would you say that you overvalue all of your players every day? Or just the ones that end in Y?

Here's some perspective from a guy who doesn't hate the Habs-Alzner is slow, declining, and obviously as poor at evaluating talent as you are: https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/canadiens-sign-defenceman-karl-alzner-five-year-deal/

The first line is my personal favorite: "Karl Alzner says joining the Montreal Canadiens gives him a better chance to win a Stanley Cup than he had with the Capitals in Washington."
18 août 2018 à 12 h 11
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So, would you say that you overvalue all of your players every day? Or just the ones that end in Y?

Here's some perspective from a guy who doesn't hate the Habs-Alzner is slow, declining, and obviously as poor at evaluating talent as you are: https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/canadiens-sign-defenceman-karl-alzner-five-year-deal/

The first line is my personal favorite: "Karl Alzner says joining the Montreal Canadiens gives him a better chance to win a Stanley Cup than he had with the Capitals in Washington."


By the middle of last season, Alzner was a better player than Emelin or Beaulieu. When that was written, the Habs also still had a reasonable expectation that Markov would take a 1-year deal and that Radulov would be back. Obviously, when that was written, the Habs 2017-18 picture looked a whole lot rosier. Fast forward through Weber missing his first season in 12 years, Price suffering through who know what it was, and Drouin taking half a year to become productive and, yes, the season was nowhere near what had been expected. That can't be laid at Alzner's feet.

While Alzner might not be worth that high a contract, the Habs have oodles of money and cap space. As I said above, there are only a very small handful of teams that wouldn't welcome him as part of their 23-man lineup and if you actually watched the Habs through the wretched depths of last winter, you'd know that Alzner was one of the more dependable players on the ice. On a team that was -55, Alzner averaged over 20 minutes per game and was -7 on the year. He wasn't the problem.

As for the other snark, GFY.
 
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