SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Stripping it to the studs

Équipe: 2018-19 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 10 août 2018
Publié: 10 août 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Habs move into reboot mode, trading veterans for young studs and picks.

PRESEASON

Pacioretty is an upgrade for the Devils and only comes with a 2nd pick if Pacioretty leaves as a UFA.

Petry and McCarron to Ducks for two solid French-Canadian prospects, neither are critical to the Ducks prospect pool;

AT TDL

Pleks to a good home where he gets another kick at a Cup.

Byron and Valiev to COL for a high pick (assumes Colorado is a serious contender);

Schlemko and/or Benn are shipped out for late picks to provide playoff depth.
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Mueller, Mirco
  2. Zacha, Pavel
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
** Conditional 2nd pick transfers is Pacioretty is re-signed, traded, or the NJD advance to second round of the 2019 playoffs **
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
Trade Deadline Move (Could be any team in the East)
CBJ
  1. Plekanec, Tomas
Détails additionnels:
Trade Deadline Move (Could be any team in the East)
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
PIT
  1. Schlemko, David (1 050 000 $ retained)
4.
MTL
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (DAL)
5.
ANA
  1. Petry, Jeff (2 250 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Rights to Mike McCarron
** This deal was edited from the original to reflect the maximum salary cap being retained.
6.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
Lottery protected. In the event Colorado does not qualify for the playoffs, the pick reverts to a second and fourth, with the Habs 3rd rounder reverting to Montreal.
COL
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. Valiev, Rinat
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (MTL)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2019
Logo de MTL
Logo de COL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de CGY
Logo de CHI
Logo de EDM
Logo de MTL
Logo de WPG
2020
Logo de MTL
Logo de NJD
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de WPG
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
2021
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de CBJ
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de PIT
Logo de DAL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2379 500 000 $57 811 308 $0 $1 815 000 $21 688 692 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
650 000 $650 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 3
839 166 $839 166 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 1
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance175 000 $$175K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
820 000 $820 000 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
AG
RFA - 3
775 833 $775 833 $
C
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
4 625 000 $4 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 8
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 8
748 333 $748 333 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
850 000 $850 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
950 000 $950 000 $
G
UFA - 1
725 000 $725 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DD
UFA - 2
700 000 $700 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 4

Code d'intégration

  • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
  • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

Texte intégré

Cliquer pour surligner
10 août 2018 à 16 h 29
#1
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2017
Messages: 1,834
Mentions "j'aime": 551
Wow, this team would suck but Laval will be AWESOME!!!! tears of joy
10 août 2018 à 16 h 33
#2
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2017
Messages: 1,725
Mentions "j'aime": 430
Quoting: HabsRafiki
Wow, this team would suck but Laval will be AWESOME!!!! tears of joy


Let's hope a few of those kids grow up. It's fun to imagine what might be possible if Poehling, Kotkeniemi, Comtois, Hudon, Drouin, Domi, Scherbak, and a few of the picks grow up together.
10 août 2018 à 16 h 37
#3
Lenny7
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 13,291
Mentions "j'aime": 11,051
I'm not going to sit here and say that either Comtois or Morand are amazing prospects, but ask yourself this:

Why would the Ducks move prospects for a guy that's being paid big bucks, that would play on their 3rd pairing, and a prospect that has fizzled out a fair amount?

The Avs deal is also ridiculous. There's nothing in that deal that gets you even close to a 1st rounder.
10 août 2018 à 16 h 50
#4
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2017
Messages: 1,725
Mentions "j'aime": 430
Quoting: Lenny7
I'm not going to sit here and say that either Comtois or Morand are amazing prospects, but ask yourself this:

Why would the Ducks move prospects for a guy that's being paid big bucks, that would play on their 3rd pairing, and a prospect that has fizzled out a fair amount?

The Avs deal is also ridiculous. There's nothing in that deal that gets you even close to a 1st rounder.


Ducks have Manson and Montour on the RHD. After that, you're down to Sustr, who's a UFA. Petry had more points than both Manson and Montour and gives the Ducks depth and strength where they're currently thinnest. If they're going to take a shot at a deep run into the playoffs, they'll need to upgrade the D. Anaheim has a history of making warships out of aircraft carriers -- like Chipchura. So, Petry for Comtois is reasonable. McCarron for Morand is a gamble for both teams.

Byron is a middle-6 winger capable of playing both sides. He's a much better player than Andrighetto, who they have in there now. Valiev is an RD on a team with only Erik Johnson and Tyson Barrie as RDs (his development is ahead of Conor Timmins). Those two players and swapping what should be a low 60s pick for a late 20s is not that big a stretch.
habs_fan123 a aimé ceci.
10 août 2018 à 18 h 13
#5
habs_fan
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2018
Messages: 2,932
Mentions "j'aime": 690
Quoting: Truebeliever
Ducks have Manson and Montour on the RHD. After that, you're down to Sustr, who's a UFA. Petry had more points than both Manson and Montour and gives the Ducks depth and strength where they're currently thinnest. If they're going to take a shot at a deep run into the playoffs, they'll need to upgrade the D. Anaheim has a history of making warships out of aircraft carriers -- like Chipchura. So, Petry for Comtois is reasonable. McCarron for Morand is a gamble for both teams.

Byron is a middle-6 winger capable of playing both sides. He's a much better player than Andrighetto, who they have in there now. Valiev is an RD on a team with only Erik Johnson and Tyson Barrie as RDs (his development is ahead of Conor Timmins). Those two players and swapping what should be a low 60s pick for a late 20s is not that big a stretch.


Preach it!
10 août 2018 à 20 h 17
#6
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 9,819
Mentions "j'aime": 4,665
Modifié 13 août 2018 à 4 h 16
I'll second the Avs trade being ridiculous. Johnson & Barrie yes. Then you'll have three lefties plus Alt competing for ice time after Zadorov, Girard and Cole (Nemeth, Barberio & Lindholm), and then you have Timmins, Meloche plus Makar when signed to bring into the picture. The package isn't worth a first round pick. Byron is too old for the Avs picture. Last season Andrighetto scored at a slightly higher Pts per Gm ratio than Byron to use your comparison and Andrighetto is younger. Sorry, your argument simply doesn't stack up!
11 août 2018 à 10 h 53
#7
Lenny7
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 13,291
Mentions "j'aime": 11,051
Quoting: Truebeliever
Ducks have Manson and Montour on the RHD. After that, you're down to Sustr, who's a UFA. Petry had more points than both Manson and Montour and gives the Ducks depth and strength where they're currently thinnest. If they're going to take a shot at a deep run into the playoffs, they'll need to upgrade the D. Anaheim has a history of making warships out of aircraft carriers -- like Chipchura. So, Petry for Comtois is reasonable. McCarron for Morand is a gamble for both teams.

Byron is a middle-6 winger capable of playing both sides. He's a much better player than Andrighetto, who they have in there now. Valie is an RD on a team with only Erik Johnson and Tyson Barrie as RDs (his development is ahead of Conor Timmins). Those two players and swapping what should be a low 60s pick for a late 20s is not that big a stretch.


Quoting: habs_fan123
Preach it!


Again, I'm not saying that Petry isn't good, but spending $5.5 mil for the next 3 years on a guy that'll play on the 3rd pairing doesn't make any degree of sense. Plus that would immediately ruin any chances that they have of signing Silfverberg to an extension.

As for saying that the Avs pick will be in the late 20's, that's a bit of a stretch. They were a wildcard team last year, and got in by 1 pt. Is anyone really going to sit here and say that over the summer they improved enough to be a top 5 team? I seriously doubt it.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, nobody is trading first round picks for low upside guys. Byron is who he is, and on the vast majority of other teams in the league, he plays on the 4th line. As for saying that Valiev's development is ahead of Timmins? I can't argue for or against that, but am very aware that he's an AHL dman, who doesn't project as much more.
TJTwolf a aimé ceci.
12 août 2018 à 12 h 4
#8
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2017
Messages: 1,725
Mentions "j'aime": 430
Quoting: Lenny7
Again, I'm not saying that Petry isn't good, but spending $5.5 mil for the next 3 years on a guy that'll play on the 3rd pairing doesn't make any degree of sense. Plus that would immediately ruin any chances that they have of signing Silfverberg to an extension.

As for saying that the Avs pick will be in the late 20's, that's a bit of a stretch. They were a wildcard team last year, and got in by 1 pt. Is anyone really going to sit here and say that over the summer they improved enough to be a top 5 team? I seriously doubt it.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, nobody is trading first round picks for low upside guys. Byron is who he is, and on the vast majority of other teams in the league, he plays on the 4th line. As for saying that Valiev's development is ahead of Timmins? I can't argue for or against that, but am very aware that he's an AHL dman, who doesn't project as much more.


My mistake. I had meant to retain some the max amount of salary and knock Petry's cap hit down by 50%. I'll fix now.

On the Colorado pick, I'd be willing to move it to two seconds in the event there's a lottery situation. I had assumed that Colorado is viewed as being on the ascendence.
12 août 2018 à 12 h 21
#9
Démarrer sujet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2017
Messages: 1,725
Mentions "j'aime": 430
Quoting: TJTwolf
I'll second the Avs trade being ridiculous. Johnson & Barrie yes. Then you'll have three lefties plus Alt competing for ice time after Zadorov, Girard and Cole (Nemeth, Barberio & Lindholm), and then you have Timmins, Meloche plus Makar when signed to bring into the picture. The package isn't worth a first round pick. Byron is too old for the Avs picture. Last season Andrighetto scored at a slightly higher Pts per Gm ration than Byron to use your comparison and Andrighetto is younger. Sorry, your argument simply doesn't stack up!


Valiev's top side isn't Meloche or Makar, but they'll need time to develop properly. Valiev is a cheap, game-ready option (substitute Lernout if you'd prefer). And if you'd rather go to war with Andrighetto over Byron (especially when you can have them both relatively cheaply), you're nuts. Byron plays both wings, sees almost no time on the PP, is a strong PK player, and was +21 in 2016-17 and -4 last year on a team that was outscored by 55 goals.
12 août 2018 à 15 h 19
#10
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 9,819
Mentions "j'aime": 4,665
Quoting: Truebeliever
Valiev's top side isn't Meloche or Makar, but they'll need time to develop properly. Valiev is a cheap, game-ready option (substitute Lernout if you'd prefer). And if you'd rather go to war with Andrighetto over Byron (especially when you can have them both relatively cheaply), you're nuts. Byron plays both wings, sees almost no time on the PP, is a strong PK player, and was +21 in 2016-17 and -4 last year on a team that was outscored by 55 goals.


Your argument still doesn't stack up.
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage