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Trouba

Créé par: aspina25
Équipe: 2018-19 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 25 juill. 2018
Publié: 25 juill. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
55 250 000 $
64 500 000 $
13 000 000 $
Transactions
WPG
  1. Hayes, Kevin
  2. Pionk, Neal
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (NYR)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (NYR)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2379 500 000 $71 647 359 $0 $2 765 000 $7 852 641 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
4 625 000 $4 625 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
UFA - 4
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 2
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
C, AG
UFA - 3
3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
RFA - 3
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
2 275 000 $2 275 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
RFA - 1
708 750 $708 750 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
4 350 000 $4 350 000 $
DG/DD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
792 500 $792 500 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
G
UFA - 2
5 700 000 $5 700 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 3
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
UFA - 1
700 000 $700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
833 333 $833 333 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
DG
UFA - 3

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25 juill. 2018 à 12 h 22
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I wouldn’t trade Pionk, I would rather give up either De’Angelo or Gilmour
25 juill. 2018 à 12 h 28
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Quoting: MarcMags3676
I wouldn’t trade Pionk, I would rather give up either De’Angelo or Gilmour


I'd hate to give up Pionk either, but it'd be crazy to think WPG would give up Trouba without getting a Left side Dman in return. Pionk is a solid player with plenty of potential, but nowhere near what Trouba is.
25 juill. 2018 à 12 h 30
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Quoting: MarcMags3676
I wouldn’t trade Pionk, I would rather give up either De’Angelo or Gilmour


Agreed, but if that's what gets the deal done, the Rangers would need to do it. Trouba will be better than all three of them, and the Rangers already have Pionk and DeAngelo in Shattenkirk.

The only issues I have here is that the Rangers' kids are going to take a beating playing 2C in Hayes' absence, but whatever...maybe Spooner or names move to 2C.
25 juill. 2018 à 12 h 30
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Quoting: aspina25
I'd hate to give up Pionk either, but it'd be crazy to think WPG would give up Trouba without getting a Left side Dman in return. Pionk is a solid player with plenty of potential, but nowhere near what Trouba is.


DeAngelo is RHD
25 juill. 2018 à 12 h 51
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DeAngelo is RHD


So is Poink...and is Trouba
25 juill. 2018 à 13 h 21
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Hayes>Trouba
25 juill. 2018 à 14 h 32
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Quoting: Christiansilvestri
Hayes>Trouba


The gap isn't huge, but I disagree. Hayes has rounded into a good 2C and would be a nightmare mismatch 3C on a contender. Trouba (while we are still talking about potential and not statistical data) is a potential top pair, shut down d man with offense. Throw in that he's right handed (harder to find) and a couple years younger, and he's more valuable than Hayes, although by how much is arguable. Really, the only reason why this is arguable is because of the "potential" word, because if Trouba had already hit his projections, there would be absolutely no argument.
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25 juill. 2018 à 14 h 40
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Winnipeg guy here - they would absolutely go for this trade. Pionk and Hayes would be very appealing to the Jets (need a 2C and good young D) and Trouba would certainly be willing to re sign with the Rangers. This is one of the better offers for Trouba that i've seen, and its nice for some people to realize that in order to acquire Trouba, teams will have to part ways with valuable pieces.
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25 juill. 2018 à 17 h 18
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Quoting: aspina25
I'd hate to give up Pionk either, but it'd be crazy to think WPG would give up Trouba without getting a Left side Dman in return. Pionk is a solid player with plenty of potential, but nowhere near what Trouba is.

I said John Gilmour for a reason, he’s a solid LHD
25 juill. 2018 à 18 h 39
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Quoting: MarcMags3676
I wouldn’t trade Pionk, I would rather give up either De’Angelo or Gilmour


If NYR offered Gilmour or DeAngelo instead would you still accept
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26 juill. 2018 à 14 h 57
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Quoting: rladda
If NYR offered Gilmour or DeAngelo instead would you still accept


I think DeAngelo is a more intriguing prospect than Gilmour.

Gilmour has made some interesting strides, coming out of almost nowhere to become a viable prospect. But I don't think there is any arguing that if both hit their ceilings, DeAngelo is the better player. If DeAngelo hits, he's Kevin Shattenkirk. In fact, I'd argue he has a higher ceiling that Pionk as well.

I still think Hayes & DeAngelo with picks should be sufficient. Pionk is a little more finished and has his foot in the door, DeAngelo has the offensive upside.
26 juill. 2018 à 16 h 41
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Quoting: SuprDave45
I think DeAngelo is a more intriguing prospect than Gilmour.

Gilmour has made some interesting strides, coming out of almost nowhere to become a viable prospect. But I don't think there is any arguing that if both hit their ceilings, DeAngelo is the better player. If DeAngelo hits, he's Kevin Shattenkirk. In fact, I'd argue he has a higher ceiling that Pionk as well.

I still think Hayes & DeAngelo with picks should be sufficient. Pionk is a little more finished and has his foot in the door, DeAngelo has the offensive upside.


True but Pionk’s game is more balanced. His shot is very good and he can move the puck around the ice very well. His defensive game was great in college and in the AHL but he hasn’t been as good with that part in the NHL yet but I think he’ll develop into a great two-way defenseman for the top 4 (maybe like Sami Vatanen or Torey Krug).
DeAngelo, on the other hand has had attitude issues and has been bounced around a few times to different teams. He also hasn’t clicked in either end of the ice. I would definitely prefer Pionk but DeAngelo definitely has more upside especially if he becomes as good as scouts originally thought he’d be.
That being said, I’d also take Gilmour over DeAngelo because he’s a much faster skater and has scored a few goals and had assists in the NHL as well. He hasn’t been very good but showed flashes of becoming a reliable defenseman to score on the power play.
I really just don’t like DeAngelo’s game so I’d take them over him.
Just my opinion though
 
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