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An $81M Salary Cap Would Do It

Créé par: OldNYIfan
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 23 juill. 2018
Publié: 23 juill. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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The problem presented by 2019 is to keep most of the core talent while not exposing an inexperienced defense. As you can see, I'm keeping the top 10 forwards and the top defense pairing. You can substitute any one of our top 5 defense prospects (Borgman, Ozhiganov, Rosen, Lindgren or even Sandin) for Liljegren. Ditto Bracco or one of the Russians for a LW. And I'm sure that in 2019 there will be viable UFA candidates for all of those slots, too. (If you don't like the idea of retaining Connor Carrick, there's likely to be Robert Bertuzzo.)
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
811 000 000 $
87 000 000 $
86 000 000 $
42 400 000 $
41 950 000 $
41 500 000 $
3975 000 $
3975 000 $
3975 000 $
3975 000 $
3975 000 $
3833 333 $
3833 333 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
41 250 000 $
3975 000 $
3975 000 $
3975 000 $
3833 333 $
Durzi (RD), Sean
3925 000 $
Rasanen (RD), Eemeli
3925 000 $
Korshkov (RW), Yegor
3925 000 $
Woll (G), Joseph
3925 000 $
Transactions
TOR
  1. Connauton, Kevin
Détails additionnels:
(trade best made at end of summer in 2018)
ARI
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2020
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 000 000 $75 134 999 $0 $400 000 $5 865 001 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Marleau, Patrick
700 000 $700 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 6
Nylander, William
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Matthews, Auston
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Marner, Mitchell
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
Johnsson, Andreas
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Kadri, Nazem
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Kapanen, Kasperi
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Grundström, Carl
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Brown, Connor
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Moore, Trevor
975 000 $975 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Lindholm, Pär
975 000 $975 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Jooris, Josh
833 333 $833 333 $
C
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Zaitsev, Nikita
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Connauton, Kevin
1 375 000 $1 375 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Carrick, Connor
1 950 000 $1 950 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Dermott, Travis
863 333 $863 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Folin, Christian
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Pickard, Calvin
975 000 $975 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Liljegren, Timothy
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Horton, Nathan
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1

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23 juill. 2018 à 20 h 5
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I don't think you are getting either Marner or Nylander at those AAV for 8 years
23 juill. 2018 à 20 h 8
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I don't think you are getting either Marner or Nylander at those AAV for 8 years


And what will their AAV's look like?
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23 juill. 2018 à 20 h 20
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I don't think you are getting either Marner or Nylander at those AAV for 8 years


I was thinking 10,7.5 and 6.5 the math all works out
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23 juill. 2018 à 20 h 22
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Quoting: Goulet
And what will their AAV's look like?


Matthews number is good

Marner + Nylander, if they get 8 year deals the aav goes up because you are buying years of UFA
Nylander has 5 years to UFA
A 5 year deal would be 6.5, an 8 year deal would be 7.5-7.75
Same math with Marner he will have 5 years to ufa
A 5 year deal would be 7M and 8 year deal would 8.25-8.5
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23 juill. 2018 à 20 h 26
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You may well see 5 year deals for either Marner or Nylander to keep the aav down
I think Matthews get the same deal Tavares got except with the 8th year

They may stagger Marner and Nylander so the don't come due again at the same time
Like Matthews 8 years, Marner 6-7 years, Nylander 5 years
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23 juill. 2018 à 20 h 30
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If Marner waits to sign and plays out the year
It's conceivable he gets 80-90 pts if he gells with Tavares
Tavares made some players millionaires in NYI because suddenly a guy is getting 25 goals playing with JT

Then you could be looking at 9m for Marner
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23 juill. 2018 à 20 h 35
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Quoting: buxvet
Matthews number is good

Marner + Nylander, if they get 8 year deals the aav goes up because you are buying years of UFA
Nylander has 5 years to UFA
A 5 year deal would be 6.5, an 8 year deal would be 7.5-7.75
Same math with Marner he will have 5 years to ufa
A 5 year deal would be 7M and 8 year deal would 8.25-8.5


None of the numbers are good.
Term brings the aav down, not up.
Nylander is 4years to UFA, Marner/Matthews 5.
23 juill. 2018 à 20 h 47
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Quoting: buxvet
If Marner waits to sign and plays out the year
It's conceivable he gets 80-90 pts if he gells with Tavares
Tavares made some players millionaires in NYI because suddenly a guy is getting 25 goals playing with JT

Then you could be looking at 9m for Marner


Pulling numbers out of a hat doesn't work in the cap era. The Leafs aren't about to trade players, making the team worse, to pay players what the player or the fans may think they're worth.
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23 juill. 2018 à 20 h 51
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How about that D though. Everyone is complaining about how bad it is now... it's 40% worse.
23 juill. 2018 à 21 h 9
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I think all those numbers are discounts. Nylander and Marner are better and can earn more then Evander Kane who just got $7 million. Mathews could ask for the max but won’t, still probably gets closer to $12 million though.
23 juill. 2018 à 21 h 32
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The numbers are in the ballpark either 1M for one and 1M less for the other I say total of 25M should get all 3 kids in for 8 years
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23 juill. 2018 à 21 h 34
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
I think all those numbers are discounts. Nylander and Marner are better and can earn more then Evander Kane who just got $7 million. Mathews could ask for the max but won’t, still probably gets closer to $12 million though.


Look at Pasternak ( Bos ) and Ehlers ( Wpg)
They are better comparables than Kane
Who I think was an overpay

We'll see soon enough
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23 juill. 2018 à 21 h 38
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Quoting: Goulet
Pulling numbers out of a hat doesn't work in the cap era. The Leafs aren't about to trade players, making the team worse, to pay players what the player or the fans may think they're worth.


Well you quoted my comment, this isn't my armchair team
I was just commenting on what I thought the contracts would look like

And I agree about the D
Of course I would consider trading Nylander for help on D if the right deal came along
And upgrade Gardiner too, great Offensively, horrid defensively
His 50 points are great but not when your constant turnovers turn into goals for the other team
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23 juill. 2018 à 21 h 39
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None of the numbers are good.
Term brings the aav down, not up.
Nylander is 4years to UFA, Marner/Matthews 5.


Not when you are buying years of UFA it doesn't
23 juill. 2018 à 21 h 39
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I think all those numbers are discounts. Nylander and Marner are better and can earn more then Evander Kane who just got $7 million. Mathews could ask for the max but won’t, still probably gets closer to $12 million though.


Less than 300k in cap space, the cheapest and worst backend in the league, and you still go on about how they're going to get more?
23 juill. 2018 à 21 h 40
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And what will their AAV's look like?


Thanks, Michel!
23 juill. 2018 à 21 h 40
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I was thinking 10,7.5 and 6.5 the math all works out


Thanks, Jamie!
23 juill. 2018 à 21 h 42
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Quoting: buxvet
You may well see 5 year deals for either Marner or Nylander to keep the aav down
I think Matthews get the same deal Tavares got except with the 8th year

They may stagger Marner and Nylander so the don't come due again at the same time
Like Matthews 8 years, Marner 6-7 years, Nylander 5 years


Thanks, Buxvet!
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23 juill. 2018 à 21 h 44
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The numbers are in the ballpark either 1M for one and 1M less for the other I say total of 25M should get all 3 kids in for 8 years


Thanks!
23 juill. 2018 à 21 h 44
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Well you quoted my comment, this isn't my armchair team
I was just commenting on what I thought the contracts would look like

And I agree about the D
Of course I would consider trading Nylander for help on D if the right deal came along
And upgrade Gardiner too, great Offensively, horrid defensively
His 50 points are great but not when your constant turnovers turn into goals for the other team


Check out Corsica. You'll see that Gardiner is far better than you think and currently vastly superior to who you think is better.
Quoting: buxvet
Not when you are buying years of UFA it doesn't


When you're talking 7 to 8 years of term it does.
23 juill. 2018 à 21 h 45
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Thanks, Michel!


It's Robert...
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Well you quoted my comment, this isn't my armchair team
I was just commenting on what I thought the contracts would look like

And I agree about the D
Of course I would consider trading Nylander for help on D if the right deal came along
And upgrade Gardiner too, great Offensively, horrid defensively
His 50 points are great but not when your constant turnovers turn into goals for the other team


The whole object of the exercise was NOT to trade any of the top 10 forwards, i.e., to see what sort of defense could be constructed with a budget of $16M (assuming a cap of $81M) and assuming that I had to go with Rielly's $5M and Zaitsev's $4.5M.
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23 juill. 2018 à 21 h 49
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Less than 300k in cap space, the cheapest and worst backend in the league, and you still go on about how they're going to get more?


"Worst backend in the league"?? Apparently, you haven't seen enough of Buffalo, Ottawa, Arizona or Vancouver.
23 juill. 2018 à 21 h 52
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Quoting: buxvet
Look at Pasternak ( Bos ) and Ehlers ( Wpg)
They are better comparables than Kane
Who I think was an overpay

We'll see soon enough


I agree on both points but Ehlers and Pasternak were signed in 2017, Mathews and Marner will be two years out from that and Nylander will get a slight increase because of inflation. Even Mcdavids contract will be two years ago by the time Mathews signs, that all leads to increased salaries and new bars being set. Don’t know if any of these three would be big enough egos to enforce setting that bar and likely do get discounts.

But as you said, wait and see.
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23 juill. 2018 à 21 h 53
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Quoting: Goulet
Less than 300k in cap space, the cheapest and worst backend in the league, and you still go on about how they're going to get more?


What’s how much players get paid have to do with their depth at a different position? Players get as much as they can, if they take less to win its a discount. The contracts above are what I would say are discounts, in my opinion.
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