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Créé par: Jfstompers
Équipe: 2018-19 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 20 juill. 2018
Publié: 23 juill. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
34 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
BOS
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
Right to rfa Sam Reinhart
BUF
  1. Bjork, Anders
  2. Krug, Torey
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (BOS)
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MIN
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (BOS)
3.
BOS
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2019 (COL)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2379 500 000 $74 240 668 $774 000 $3 737 500 $5 259 332 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 7
6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
6 666 667 $6 666 667 $
AD
UFA - 5
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
AD, AG
UFA - 2
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
900 000 $900 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
872 500 $872 500 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
1 275 000 $1 275 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
725 000 $725 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 750 000 $$2M)
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DD
UFA - 1
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
789 167 $789 167 $
DD
UFA - 1
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 4

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23 juill. 2018 à 18 h 31
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Don't think a 2nd is enough to get Coyle.
23 juill. 2018 à 19 h 27
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massive overpay for Reinhart
24 juill. 2018 à 0 h 45
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massive overpay for Reinhart


I don’t think its too far off at all. Giving up a 27 yr old offensive defensman whose a liability in his own end and a rookie who looked pretty good, nothing great, for his first 15 games before getting injured for an established 22 yr old RW2 and a 2nd which is likely to be high. Could maybe change that second to one of their firsts but i don’t think it’s tht far off
24 juill. 2018 à 7 h 36
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I don’t think its too far off at all. Giving up a 27 yr old offensive defensman whose a liability in his own end and a rookie who looked pretty good, nothing great, for his first 15 games before getting injured for an established 22 yr old RW2 and a 2nd which is likely to be high. Could maybe change that second to one of their firsts but i don’t think it’s tht far off


I bet you were one of those people screaming to trade Heinen too after his first stint with Boston. Taking out guys like Carlo/McAvoy because they have a full year in the NHL now, Bjork is arguably the Bruins best prospect.
24 juill. 2018 à 8 h 34
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I bet you were one of those people screaming to trade Heinen too after his first stint with Boston. Taking out guys like Carlo/McAvoy because they have a full year in the NHL now, Bjork is arguably the Bruins best prospect.


I’m not saying to trade bjork. I was just saying the values not too far off.
24 juill. 2018 à 8 h 43
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I’m not saying to trade bjork. I was just saying the values not too far off.


Not really. Krug alone with worth Reinhart+

Over the last 3 seasons, Krug has outscored Reinhart...as a defensemen. You're actually downgrading in production while giving up a young forward who in his rookie year was looking at 32pts over a full season. Bjork is also a guy that Bergeron likes very much and was a big supporter to have him play on his line.
24 juill. 2018 à 9 h 1
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Not really. Krug alone with worth Reinhart+

Over the last 3 seasons, Krug has outscored Reinhart...as a defensemen. You're actually downgrading in production while giving up a young forward who in his rookie year was looking at 32pts over a full season. Bjork is also a guy that Bergeron likes very much and was a big supporter to have him play on his line.


Listen im all for keeping all these kids but theres gotta be a point where you take advantage of the pool we have and make a move. Krug yeah he had more points but to other teams he doesn't hold the value that he should. The Bruins would've had found a dance partner on him by now if he held the value we think he holds. Your trading for a 22 year old forward whose been a steady 40+ point getter in his young nhl career and improving on his production every year. Change the 2nd to SJ or STL 1st id probs make the move.
24 juill. 2018 à 9 h 11
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Listen im all for keeping all these kids but theres gotta be a point where you take advantage of the pool we have and make a move. Krug yeah he had more points but to other teams he doesn't hold the value that he should. The Bruins would've had found a dance partner on him by now if he held the value we think he holds. Your trading for a 22 year old forward whose been a steady 40+ point getter in his young nhl career and improving on his production every year. Change the 2nd to SJ or STL 1st id probs make the move.


You're assuming that Boston is actively trying to trade Krug. There have been no reports that they want to trade Krug. I'm sure they are taking calls, but unless they get blown away they'll keep him. Last year 25% of the NHL forwards had 40+ points, on the flip side only 4% of the NHL d-men put up 55+ points (Krug 59 pts). Its a lot easier to find a 40+ point forward than it is a 55+ point d-man.
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24 juill. 2018 à 9 h 24
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You're assuming that Boston is actively trying to trade Krug. There have been no reports that they want to trade Krug. I'm sure they are taking calls, but unless they get blown away they'll keep him. Last year 25% of the NHL forwards had 40+ points, on the flip side only 4% of the NHL d-men put up 55+ points (Krug 59 pts). Its a lot easier to find a 40+ point forward than it is a 55+ point d-man.


Ive said it to you and many others on here about how krugs point getting ability and what he can do on the pp and offensively is great. But Im just not a huge fan of him. Its why you see me include him in a lot of trades. Also its the added value he carries in a potential trade. We have guys who can produce points. Maybe not to the exact level of Krug but could come close to a combined equivalent of what he has done. Its just his defensive inability that scares me. While he has the intangibles to be a good dman he's just not. And he's been a great bruin, and bursted onto the scene like a superstar back in 2013. Im sorry if we disagree but thats just how it is for me.
24 juill. 2018 à 9 h 43
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Ive said it to you and many others on here about how krugs point getting ability and what he can do on the pp and offensively is great. But Im just not a huge fan of him. Its why you see me include him in a lot of trades. Also its the added value he carries in a potential trade. We have guys who can produce points. Maybe not to the exact level of Krug but could come close to a combined equivalent of what he has done. Its just his defensive inability that scares me. While he has the intangibles to be a good dman he's just not. And he's been a great bruin, and bursted onto the scene like a superstar back in 2013. Im sorry if we disagree but thats just how it is for me.


So then you play him in a role more suited for his game. Put him on the 3rd pairing and let him QB both PP's. Personally I think that's where he belongs anyways. I'd even breakup Chara/McAvoy TBH and try and balance things out a little bit more...

Chara - Carlo
Moore - McAvoy
Krug - Miller/McQuaid

Krug's obviously never going to win a Norris, but you need guys like Krug on the backend to bring scoring. I'd also strongly question the idea that we have guys on the backend who can produce points close to what Krug does (even combined). Why do I say that:

Krug - 59pts

Chara, McAvoy, Carlo, Grzelcyk, Postma, O'Gara, McQuaid, Miller & Holden combined - 83pts

Krug by himself matched 72% of the total points every other d-man on Boston put up last year. That's 9 guys vs 1 guy in offensive production, so moving Krug is going to cut your offensive output from the backend by just over 40%

The only 3 guys on the team with more points last year were Bergy, Marchy and Pasta...think about that for a moment, Krug outscored everyone on the Bruins except for arguably the best line in hockey. You don't trade Krug unless you're getting an impact player back. Acquiring a young 40+ point forward (we have a ton of FWD prospect BTW) isn't a move that warrants Krug.
 
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