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TBL TRADE FOR KESSEL

Créé par: Arom5477
Équipe: 2018-19 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 19 juin 2018
Publié: 19 juin 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
55 500 000 $
22 000 000 $
21 250 000 $
32 500 000 $
22 075 000 $
2700 000 $
1687 500 $
1687 500 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
23 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Foote, Cal
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (TBL)
Détails additionnels:
RFA Rights to J.T. Miller
2.
PIT
    RFA Rights to Trevor van Riemsdyk
    Rachats de contrats
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    2018
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    2019
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    2020
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2380 000 000 $74 150 725 $0 $132 500 $5 849 275 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    734 167 $734 167 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    700 000 $700 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 2
    5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 5
    9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
    AD
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    C, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 3
    1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 4
    925 000 $925 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    2 075 000 $2 075 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 1
    687 500 $687 500 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 2
    687 500 $687 500 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 5
    7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 4
    3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    3 333 225 $3 333 225 $
    DG
    UFA - 4
    5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    675 000 $675 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 3
    650 000 $650 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1

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    19 juin 2018 à 14 h 4
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    No thanks, not interested in Kessel (at that price or any) or helping you guys out.
    19 juin 2018 à 14 h 5
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    Quoting: jshherman
    No thanks, not interested in Kessel (at that price or any) or helping you guys out.


    I respect that. Just going off reports that Yzerman may go big this offseason.
    19 juin 2018 à 14 h 10
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    Quoting: jshherman
    No thanks, not interested in Kessel (at that price or any) or helping you guys out.


    how is that helping us out foote is a phenomenal prospect but thats all he is really done nothing in nhl to prove he is worth kessel. Jt miller is a nice player but for 1.3 million more we have kessell big no thanks.

    like the sheary trade some of the free agent signings might be a tad low but not bad
    19 juin 2018 à 14 h 10
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    Quoting: Arom5477
    I respect that. Just going off reports that Yzerman may go big this offseason.


    I could see Kessel being traded, but I could see it to a different team that does not have the players to sign soon. I posted what I would love to see the Lightning do that would provide flexibility for a cup run in 2018 with contracts that will drop off and movement of salary. I believe there are core players and prospects they should keep for the foreseeable future and do what Pittsburgh has done in moving players on expiring contracts or letting them leave and promoting within surrounding the core players. I just don't see them tying up more money with a move where it does not free up money for the guys currently. I think Kessel is going to start on his decline and Miller has some years on him. I actually forgot to re-sign him on my Arm-GM, but I could see them possibly moving him to get a mid-late first round pick back.
    19 juin 2018 à 14 h 12
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    Quoting: t2a2e9j12k2
    how is that helping us out foote is a phenomenal prospect but thats all he is really done nothing in nhl to prove he is worth kessel. Jt miller is a nice player but for 1.3 million more we have kessell big no thanks.

    like the sheary trade some of the free agent signings might be a tad low but not bad


    MIller is not signed yet, but I don't see Kessel staying at the level that he has. I think if they do want to keep Miller likely ($5Mx2-3) they can do it cheaper than Kessel ($8Mx4) and that he has alot of better years left.
    19 juin 2018 à 14 h 18
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    I like this idea except for the Grabner signing. Rust would slot in 3RW and that's Grabner's off wing, not to mention an over payment for him. The contracts (Sprong, Simon, etc.) would need some tweaking but it's not bad.
    19 juin 2018 à 14 h 18
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    No they don't
    19 juin 2018 à 14 h 34
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    yes the Penguins are going to give up a 90 point player who has done nothing but score goals and win in Pittsburgh for TJ Miller.
    19 juin 2018 à 15 h 18
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    Quoting: pharrow
    yes the Penguins are going to give up a 90 point player who has done nothing but score goals and win in Pittsburgh for TJ Miller.


    1.) Kessel won’t break 90+ points again. This season was a statistical anamoly for him. Especially if this little feud with him and Mike Sullivan continues. He’d be a 75-85 point player in TB and supercharge their power play.
    2.) J.T. Miller is younger, can play wing and center, all the while, grow into a 70ish point player on a reasonable long term contract.
    3.) Cal Foote is a phenomenal defensive prospect who could easily make the team and make trading Letang easier and more palatable.
    4.) All in all, we still get more cap space to resign key free agents for the 19-20 season (ie guentzel and ZAR)
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    19 juin 2018 à 15 h 28
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    Quoting: jshherman
    MIller is not signed yet, but I don't see Kessel staying at the level that he has. I think if they do want to keep Miller likely ($5Mx2-3) they can do it cheaper than Kessel ($8Mx4) and that he has alot of better years left.


    i meant the offer he signed miller to.

    kessel is at 6.8 with leafs retention on contract. i can easily see kessel staying at a 70 to 80 point player and easily out scoring miller
    19 juin 2018 à 15 h 35
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    Quoting: Arom5477
    1.) Kessel won’t break 90+ points again. This season was a statistical anamoly for him. Especially if this little feud with him and Mike Sullivan continues. He’d be a 75-85 point player in TB and supercharge their power play.
    2.) J.T. Miller is younger, can play wing and center, all the while, grow into a 70ish point player on a reasonable long term contract.
    3.) Cal Foote is a phenomenal defensive prospect who could easily make the team and make trading Letang easier and more palatable.
    4.) All in all, we still get more cap space to resign key free agents for the 19-20 season (ie guentzel and ZAR)


    Fully agree with this. I just don't see the Lightning making this trade.
    19 juin 2018 à 19 h 17
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    Quoting: Arom5477
    1.) Kessel won’t break 90+ points again. This season was a statistical anamoly for him. Especially if this little feud with him and Mike Sullivan continues. He’d be a 75-85 point player in TB and supercharge their power play.
    2.) J.T. Miller is younger, can play wing and center, all the while, grow into a 70ish point player on a reasonable long term contract.
    3.) Cal Foote is a phenomenal defensive prospect who could easily make the team and make trading Letang easier and more palatable.
    4.) All in all, we still get more cap space to resign key free agents for the 19-20 season (ie guentzel and ZAR)


    by your own admission. Pens give up a guy you see putting up 85 points for a guy who puts up 50 some points a year, and a prospect. Wow, way to help them win now in closing window.

    seriously TB fan, your not fleecing anyone. Then Penguins are not here to bump you to the cup because you couldn't get their on your own.
    The Metro is the best division in hockey. Because you have teams like the Pens who have 3 of the best players in the sport on one team.
    There is no need to change that any time soon. Surely not for such a bad trade. We aren't going to trade a guy who would have scored 100pts if not for being moved down to the 3rd line for a chunk of time to get a less talented winger for a whopping 1.3 mil in cap space. Yeah great move.
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    19 juin 2018 à 22 h 20
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    Quoting: pharrow
    by your own admission. Pens give up a guy you see putting up 85 points for a guy who puts up 50 some points a year, and a prospect. Wow, way to help them win now in closing window.

    seriously TB fan, your not fleecing anyone. Then Penguins are not here to bump you to the cup because you couldn't get their on your own.
    The Metro is the best division in hockey. Because you have teams like the Pens who have 3 of the best players in the sport on one team.
    There is no need to change that any time soon. Surely not for such a bad trade. We aren't going to trade a guy who would have scored 100pts if not for being moved down to the 3rd line for a chunk of time to get a less talented winger for a whopping 1.3 mil in cap space. Yeah great move.
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    Lol. I'm a Penguins fan. I'm just not allergic to looking to the future like most Pens fans.
    20 juin 2018 à 2 h 5
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    Quoting: Arom5477
    Lol. I'm a Penguins fan. I'm just not allergic to looking to the future like most Pens fans.


    I hate to break it to you. But every team in the league wishes they were in the Pens win now mode. This is exactly what you build a team for. Not for the future. People building for the future are in the basement of a division with no realistic chance to win a cup
     
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