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ROR Brodin Saad Stastny Perron

Créé par: mr_z
Date de création initiale: jun 3, 2018
Publié: Jun 3, 2018 at 11:26 am
Équipe: 2018-19 Canadiens de Montréal
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Danault, Phillip21 500 000 $
De La Rose, Jacob2925 000 $
UFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Stastny, Paul36 250 000 $
Perron, David54 885 000 $
CRÉÉANNÉESCAP HIT
Wahlstrom, Oliver3925 000 $
Transactions
MTL
  1. Brodin, Jonas
  2. O'Reilly, Cal
  3. 2018 3e round pick (VGK)
MIN
  1. Galchenyuk, Alex
  2. Benn, Jordie
  3. 2018 2e round pick (WSH)
MTL
  1. O'Reilly, Ryan
  2. 2018 4e round pick (BUF)
  3. 2019 4e round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Pacioretty, Max
  2. Scherbak, Nikita
  3. 2018 2e round pick (MTL)
  4. 2019 2e round pick (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
Pacioretty extended 5yr $6,875,000

Rights RFA Fucale
MTL
  1. 2019 6e round pick (SJS)
SJS
  1. Schlemko, David
MTL
  1. Saad, Brandon
  2. Fortin, Alexandre
  3. 2018 1e round pick (CHI)
Détails additionnels:
Rights RFA Duclair
CHI
  1. Shaw, Andrew (900 000 $ retained)
  2. Byron, Paul
  3. Lindgren, Charlie
  4. 2018 1e round pick (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
Rights RFA McCarron
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Andrew Shaw: 900 000 $ (23,08%)
  • Max Pacioretty: 450 000 $ (10%)
  • Marco Scandella: 2 000 000 $ (50%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2018
CHI
CHI
TOR
VGK
MTL
MTL
EDM
WPG
BUF
MTL
2019
MTL
MTL
MTL
BUF
MTL
SJS
MTL
2020
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2380 000 000 $80 452 142 $0 $790 000 $-452 142 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Drouin, Jonathan
5 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 5
Stastny, Paul
6 250 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 3
Perron, David
4 885 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 4
Saad, Brandon
6 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
O'Reilly, Ryan
7 500 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Wahlstrom, Oliver
925 000 $
Hudon, Charles
650 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Danault, Phillip
1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 3
Gallagher, Brendan
3 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Lehkonen, Artturi
839 166 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
De La Rose, Jacob
925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Vejdemo, Lukas
792 500 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 2
Deslauriers, Nicolas
950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
O'Reilly, Cal
700 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Brodin, Jonas
4 166 667 $
DG
UFA - 3
Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 8
Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 8
Mete, Victor
748 333 $
DG
RFA - 2
Petry, Jeff
5 500 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
Niemi, Antti
950 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Alzner, Karl
4 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 4
Juulsen, Noah
863 333 $
DD
RFA - 2
Reilly, Mike
725 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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3 jun 2018 à 12 h 38
#1
Subbanator
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Your giving up to much for ROR. Especially is it’s a sign and trade. Pacioretty and ROR are comparable players already, adding in two 2nd round picks and a potential top 6 forward is over kill.
3 jun 2018 à 12 h 55
#2
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Banni
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
Your giving up to much for ROR. Especially is it’s a sign and trade. Pacioretty and ROR are comparable players already, adding in two 2nd round picks and a potential top 6 forward is over kill.


Sabre's fans are very critical of a ROR return. It was an intentional overpayment to show it can be done and not have an effect on Habs depth.
3 jun 2018 à 13 h 04
#3
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Agree that the ROR skews too much to Buffalo, but my biggest knock is that you're being reckless with the goaltending situation. Fucale and Lindgren are vital pieces if Price goes down, which history suggests he might.

Chucky for Brodin is a good deal. Not sure about the rest, but OK.
3 jun 2018 à 13 h 04
#4
Rejoint: déc 2017
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
Your giving up to much for ROR. Especially is it’s a sign and trade. Pacioretty and ROR are comparable players already, adding in two 2nd round picks and a potential top 6 forward is over kill.


Comparable for the 18/19 sure, but ROR plays the position you're hurting for, is 2 years younger and has a deal that ends when he is 32ish. Patches will be extended likely until he is 35 or older. Buffalo would be making this trade from a position of strength...I would take a deal like this to start a dialogue between the teams. (in my opinion). Fucale would 100% need to be included in that trade. The piece Buffalo would probably make a non starter since it sounds like they are moving on from Lehner. Overall, getting Brodin is a great player to look at but I just like the potential Chemistry of a ROR Gally line if he stays out on the wing. Also, if you're a fan of Saad (this is the point of Armchair GM) the deal looks fair to me, I just feel like you'd be better off with the 3rd overall.
3 jun 2018 à 13 h 11
#5
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Banni
Rejoint: mai 2017
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Quoting: Truebeliever
Agree that the ROR skews too much to Buffalo, but my biggest knock is that you're being reckless with the goaltending situation. Fucale and Lindgren are vital pieces if Price goes down, which history suggests he might.

Chucky for Brodin is a good deal. Not sure about the rest, but OK.


After I would sign Hawkey and Primeau wink And there's still McNiven.
3 jun 2018 à 14 h 05
#6
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He can't sign an extension before the draft since the draft is before July 1st
3 jun 2018 à 14 h 06
#7
BiscuitBakesHotTaeks
Rejoint: avr 2018
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BUF says no way. ROR is more valuable than Pacioretty for these few reasons
1. He’s a Center, they are harder to get than wingers
2. He’s 3 years younger with 5 years left on his deal so BUF gets him for 27-32 instead of the 30-35 they would with Pacioretty. Scherbak is meh and the picks are crap shoots.

If MTL wants to convince BUF to trade ROR in division? If I’m GMBOT it’s 3OA or no deal.

Plz stop trying to trade MP to BUF for ROR MTL fans. It makes no sense
3 jun 2018 à 14 h 34
#8
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Quoting: mr_z
After I would sign Hawkey and Primeau wink And there's still McNiven.


Signing the two NCAA goalies might be fine for 2021-22, but there’s a lot of development time still needed. Meanwhile, McNiven seems to be going backwards.
3 jun 2018 à 14 h 38
#9
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Quoting: BiscuitBakesandHotTaeks
BUF says no way. ROR is more valuable than Pacioretty for these few reasons
1. He’s a Center, they are harder to get than wingers
2. He’s 3 years younger with 5 years left on his deal so BUF gets him for 27-32 instead of the 30-35 they would with Pacioretty. Scherbak is meh and the picks are crap shoots.

If MTL wants to convince BUF to trade ROR in division? If I’m GMBOT it’s 3OA or no deal.

Plz stop trying to trade MP to BUF for ROR MTL fans. It makes no sense


There are more Buffalo fans trying to give away ROR than MTL fan who want a dog who seems only adept at running his teams out of the playoffs.

The 3OA ain’t on the table, so let’s just agree that it’s no deal.
3 jun 2018 à 14 h 41
#10
dbudz12
Rejoint: jui 2017
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You're insane if you think the Hawks would trade their first rounder along with Saad.
3 jun 2018 à 14 h 47
#11
BiscuitBakesHotTaeks
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Quoting: Truebeliever
There are more Buffalo fans trying to give away ROR than MTL fan who want a dog who seems only adept at running his teams out of the playoffs.

The 3OA ain’t on the table, so let’s just agree that it’s no deal.


Give away ROR? It’s called making trades that would fit both teams well that both teams accept. One of which this trade is not
3 jun 2018 à 18 h 56
#12
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Quoting: BiscuitBakesandHotTaeks
Give away ROR? It’s called making trades that would fit both teams well that both teams accept. One of which this trade is not


Just saying if any group is guilty of disrespecting ROR, it's Buffalo fans. I see a guy who commands top dollar and doesn't get his teams anywhere near the playoffs. He might be a decent complementary player, but I sure wouldn't bet the franchise on him.
3 jun 2018 à 19 h 13
#13
BiscuitBakesHotTaeks
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Quoting: Truebeliever
Just saying if any group is guilty of disrespecting ROR, it's Buffalo fans. I see a guy who commands top dollar and doesn't get his teams anywhere near the playoffs. He might be a decent complementary player, but I sure wouldn't bet the franchise on him.


I mean he’s not a franchise center, but he is a great player. I know asking for 3OA is a lot but that’s what I would need if he’s going in the division.
 
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