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If Kessel leaves...

Créé par: PhilTheThrill
Équipe: 2018-19 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 30 mai 2018
Publié: 30 mai 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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The only way I would see a Kessel trade working is by getting a good RW back, and hopefully a first round pick. That would make it worth while. The Sheary-McCabe swap seems easy. I also think bringing in Raanta brings stability and gives Arizona a good future number 1 goalie.
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  1. Raanta, Antti (1 250 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (MIN)
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  1. Hunwick, Matt
  2. Jarry, Tristan
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  1. Trocheck, Vincent
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (FLA)
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  1. Dunn, Vincent
  2. Kessel, Phil
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (MIN)
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  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (MIN)
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30 mai 2018 à 16 h 50
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Why spend $3mil on a backup goalie when you can have one for $1.5mil or less?

Pens are full of RWs: Sprong, Hornqvist, Rust, ZAR. that's one reason why they would move Kessel, to make room for Sprong.
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30 mai 2018 à 16 h 51
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We don’t need a RW back. That’s one reason the pens are willing to trade him in he first place. The essentially have a cheaper and younger Kessel in their eyes with Sprong. And they have a ton of RW depth in the system. Hornqvist, Sprong, Rust, Sheary, Kuhnhackl, Simon, Rowney, ZAR can all play right wing and the pending free agents are all cheap lol. They need LW help and a 3rd pair RD so they can get Letangs minutes down now that he is getting older.

The AZ trade is just pointless for AZ to do. They are taking on a cap dump and retaining salary on their starter and giving up Domi. All they get is Jarry in this deal that’s worth anything and he isn’t much of an upgrade over Raanta right now
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Quoting: DrZaius_PhD
Why spend $3mil on a backup goalie when you can have one for $1.5mil or less?

Pens are full of RWs: Sprong, Hornqvist, Rust, ZAR. that's one reason why they would move Kessel, to make room for Sprong.


Great minds must think alike lol
30 mai 2018 à 17 h 3
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Great minds must think alike lol


Isn’t Kuemper the starter? They’re going to want a better goalie than Raanta or Kuemper. And I’m sorry but Trocheck is a massive upgrade over Sheary on RW. There is no reason to trade Phil only to replace him with either Sprong, Simon, Sheary, or Kuhnackl in the role he plays—that jut makes us worse.
30 mai 2018 à 17 h 15
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We don’t need a RW back. That’s one reason the pens are willing to trade him in he first place. The essentially have a cheaper and younger Kessel in their eyes with Sprong. And they have a ton of RW depth in the system. Hornqvist, Sprong, Rust, Sheary, Kuhnhackl, Simon, Rowney, ZAR can all play right wing and the pending free agents are all cheap lol. They need LW help and a 3rd pair RD so they can get Letangs minutes down now that he is getting older.

The AZ trade is just pointless for AZ to do. They are taking on a cap dump and retaining salary on their starter and giving up Domi. All they get is Jarry in this deal that’s worth anything and he isn’t much of an upgrade over Raanta right now


Until Sprong or Simon or Sheary can put up 92 points in a season and make this team better by replacing Kessel, we need a better RW in return.
30 mai 2018 à 17 h 17
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Quoting: DrZaius_PhD
Why spend $3mil on a backup goalie when you can have one for $1.5mil or less?

Pens are full of RWs: Sprong, Hornqvist, Rust, ZAR. that's one reason why they would move Kessel, to make room for Sprong.


Our backup goalie situation was anything but comfortable. DeSmith and Jarry played good, but we need someone there in case Murray gets injured again or in the playoffs for insurance as well.
30 mai 2018 à 17 h 36
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Isn’t Kuemper the starter? They’re going to want a better goalie than Raanta or Kuemper. And I’m sorry but Trocheck is a massive upgrade over Sheary on RW. There is no reason to trade Phil only to replace him with either Sprong, Simon, Sheary, or Kuhnackl in the role he plays—that jut makes us worse.


Trochek isn’t an upgrade over Kessel. When trading a player like Kessel you aren’t looking for an upgrade and the only way you trade him is if you believe you have a replacement in place already. Doesn’t mean an upgrade. Not many players in the league would be an upgrade over Phil. We are lookin for a more complete team. Why trade him for a downgrade and no help elsewhere? You are literally trading for a downgrade, throwing in a 2nd and a prospect for a 1st. That doesn’t make sense to do. Might as well just keep Kessel for that.
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Until Sprong or Simon or Sheary can put up 92 points in a season and make this team better by replacing Kessel, we need a better RW in return.


They can’t do that if you continue to block their ability to play by having Kessel or bringing in a guy like Trochek to take their spot lol.
30 mai 2018 à 17 h 37
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And no, Kuemper isn’t the starter. Raanta is.
30 mai 2018 à 17 h 50
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Trochek isn’t an upgrade over Kessel. When trading a player like Kessel you aren’t looking for an upgrade and the only way you trade him is if you believe you have a replacement in place already. Doesn’t mean an upgrade. Not many players in the league would be an upgrade over Phil. We are lookin for a more complete team. Why trade him for a downgrade and no help elsewhere? You are literally trading for a downgrade, throwing in a 2nd and a prospect for a 1st. That doesn’t make sense to do. Might as well just keep Kessel for that.


That was the whole point of this page, if Kessel were to go we would need to find a cheaper fit to plug back in. Otherwise there is not point in trading him. Getting a bottom six player and bottom six d man and a couple picks is useless for a trade with him.
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And no, Kuemper isn’t the starter. Raanta is.


Except Kuemper outplayed him when he got to the team and earned the role so...
30 mai 2018 à 17 h 57
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That was the whole point of this page, if Kessel were to go we would need to find a cheaper fit to plug back in. Otherwise there is not point in trading him. Getting a bottom six player and bottom six d man and a couple picks is useless for a trade with him.


The organization believes they already have the cheaper fit in Sprong. They want someone they can plug into the LW on that second line and get basically a 2nd pair quality RD that’s on a cheap enough contract that it wouldn’t kill them to plug him into a 3rd pair D to balance out their defense. Kind of like how they were doing with the fwds by plugging Phil in the 3rd line when he is really a 1st liner.
30 mai 2018 à 18 h 11
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Quoting: DrZaius_PhD
Why spend $3mil on a backup goalie when you can have one for $1.5mil or less?

Your starting goalie is only making 750,000 more than your back up.
Why don't you get some one like Malcolm Subban for 832,500 dollars a year.
 
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