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JOHN TAVARES

Créé par: Bruinsdiehard
Équipe: 2018-19 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 22 mai 2018
Publié: 22 mai 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Bruins re-acquire McQuaid with 50% of salary retained by Arizona. Contract estimates for RFAs from Matt Cane's Free Agent Predictions
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 175 000 $
2910 500 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
McQuaid, Adam
11 375 000 $
21 500 000 $
1950 000 $
710 000 000 $
Transactions
BOS
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (ARI)
ARI
  1. McQuaid, Adam
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (BOS)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2018
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2019
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2020
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2280 000 000 $77 643 668 $774 000 $3 820 000 $2 356 332 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 7
6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
6 666 667 $6 666 667 $
AD
UFA - 5
900 000 $900 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 7
792 500 $792 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
C, AD
UFA - 1
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
AD, AG
UFA - 2
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
872 500 $872 500 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
725 000 $725 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
910 500 $910 500 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
950 000 $950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 750 000 $$2M)
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DD
UFA - 1
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
789 167 $789 167 $
DD
UFA - 1
1 175 000 $1 175 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
McQuaid, Adam
1 375 000 $1 375 000 $

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22 mai 2018 à 15 h 23
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Nice try but to get Tavares you need to move Krejci and Krug if you could
22 mai 2018 à 15 h 23
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Just curious how you're getting McAvoy, Heinen, donato, an Carlo signed the following season? Why is fitzgerald on the 2nd line over Heinen/deBrusk? Very odd lineup from a Bruins "diehard".

Also, is that even legal to trade a player only to re-acquire him retained? Even if that is, this is nothing more than NHL 18/19 ****. That wouldn't happen.
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22 mai 2018 à 15 h 25
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22 mai 2018 à 15 h 34
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ajc - Ummm...why?

BreKel - The Bruins would have potentially 18-20M in cap space the following season. Of those players you listed, McAvoy is the only one to command a salary >5M/year. I'm not losing sleep over how we would re-sign Donato and Heinen lol. As for the lineup, I'm personally not a big fan of Heinen, but there's no reason he couldn't slot into the 2nd line RW. I just heard all year about how the poor thing can't play the right side so...Fitzgerald had a great year in Providence and a great career at BC. Looking forward to seeing him in the lineup next year.

And yes, that trade is 100% legal. You can't re-acquire a player whom you've already retained salary for, but there is nothing to say you can't trade a player away and then immediately reacquire him.
22 mai 2018 à 15 h 37
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Quoting: BreKel
Just curious how you're getting McAvoy, Heinen, donato, an Carlo signed the following season? Why is fitzgerald on the 2nd line over Heinen/deBrusk? Very odd lineup from a Bruins "diehard".

Also, is that even legal to trade a player only to re-acquire him retained? Even if that is, this is nothing more than NHL 18/19 ****. That wouldn't happen.


Yes! Tavares should be on the top line. And its interesting you bring up if thats legal because i was wondering the same amd even thinking a for several weeks what if a team did a trade like that and can they? This is good though. Any team with tavares is better with him.
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22 mai 2018 à 15 h 42
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I just wish more GMs thought outside the box. They are soooooooooo friggin boring with their linear thinking
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22 mai 2018 à 17 h 48
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BreKel - The Bruins would have potentially 18-20M in cap space the following season. Of those players you listed, McAvoy is the only one to command a salary >5M/year. I'm not losing sleep over how we would re-sign Donato and Heinen lol. As for the lineup, I'm personally not a big fan of Heinen, but there's no reason he couldn't slot into the 2nd line RW. I just heard all year about how the poor thing can't play the right side so...Fitzgerald had a great year in Providence and a great career at BC. Looking forward to seeing him in the lineup next year.


McAvoy could easily earn 6-7M AAV on his next deal. Even being conservative, that 18-20M is going to go quick.

McAvoy = 6-7M
Heinen = 3.5-4.5M
donato = 2-3M
Carlo = 3-4M

16.5 - 18.5, and that's just the big names. Jf-Karlsson, fitzgerald, and Cehlarik. Obviously, rough numbers and who knows where they actually come in, but for sake of discussion, that money could go fast. On Heinen, i don't understand why so many Bruins fans don't like him? Yes, he ha a poor showing in the playoff, but he wouldn't be the first rookie to. That said, he is coming off a 47 point rookie season, heee. He was a top scoring rookie, espite playing a majority of the time on the 3rd line (with Nash and Backes). This was also with a decent stretch where he was cold. Also, I think you're confusing onato with Heinen on the winger comment. I on't eve ecall anyone or he, himself, saying he couldn't play the right side. I am with you on fitzgerald. I hope he gets a shot next season. I just don't expect him to jump Heinen or donato for a T6 role. I think he makes a niche as a 4th line player, at least to start.

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And yes, that trade is 100% legal. You can't re-acquire a player whom you've already retained salary for, but there is nothing to say you can't trade a player away and then immediately reacquire him.


Okay. Thank you for confirming. I do stand by my comment that it is something you woul see in a video game an that's petty much it. Has this eve been one in the NHL? I can't remember anything like that happening.
23 mai 2018 à 9 h 13
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McAvoy could easily earn 6-7M AAV on his next deal. Even being conservative, that 18-20M is going to go quick.

McAvoy = 6-7M
Heinen = 3.5-4.5M
donato = 2-3M
Carlo = 3-4M

16.5 - 18.5, and that's just the big names. Jf-Karlsson, fitzgerald, and Cehlarik. Obviously, rough numbers and who knows where they actually come in, but for sake of discussion, that money could go fast. On Heinen, i don't understand why so many Bruins fans don't like him? Yes, he ha a poor showing in the playoff, but he wouldn't be the first rookie to. That said, he is coming off a 47 point rookie season, heee. He was a top scoring rookie, espite playing a majority of the time on the 3rd line (with Nash and Backes). This was also with a decent stretch where he was cold. Also, I think you're confusing onato with Heinen on the winger comment. I on't eve ecall anyone or he, himself, saying he couldn't play the right side. I am with you on fitzgerald. I hope he gets a shot next season. I just don't expect him to jump Heinen or donato for a T6 role. I think he makes a niche as a 4th line player, at least to start.

Those are reasonable estimates, although perhaps I might disagree with Heinen's contract out of all of those. But as you said, who knows where those numbers actually come in? The original point of this exercise was trying to fit John Tavares into the roster at a 10M/year contract. Are you saying you would rather not have him on the Bruins for fear of not being able to re-sign Danton Heinen, or Ryan Donato?

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And yes, that trade is 100% legal. You can't re-acquire a player whom you've already retained salary for, but there is nothing to say you can't trade a player away and then immediately reacquire him.


Okay. Thank you for confirming. I do stand by my comment that it is something you woul see in a video game an that's petty much it. Has this eve been one in the NHL? I can't remember anything like that happening.

No, to my knowledge this kind of trade has never taken place in the NHL. I don't think the issue with this maneuver is that it's so preposterous that it belongs in the realm of video games. I just think that the salary retention option is still "new" to GMs, that, like most things, are afraid to be innovative. And they likely especially hate being the first to try anything.

I just think that this type of move should start happening, and if you're a team like Arizona, or Carolina, or some other crapbag team, why on earth wouldn't you do this move? You get an asset to retain a little over 1M for 1 season while you are rebuilding/have no hope of competing? From the Bruins perspective, I would imagine 1 major concern from doing a move like this might be offending the player. I think that's why McQuaid is the perfect player to do this with. He's got 1 year left on his deal. His salary on its own isn't particularly burdensome. His role as a 6th/7th defenseman is crystal-clearly defined. And the Bruins are re-acquiring him; it's not like they would be dumping him off to another team.
 
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