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Claesson4Norris Trade Proposal (TOR Perspective)

Créé par: Hedman77
Équipe: 2017-18 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 9 mai 2018
Publié: 9 mai 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
COL acquires Karlsson

TOR acquires Barrie

OTT acquires Liljegren, Bracco, 2018 1st (TOR), 2018 2nd (COL), 2019 1st (OTT)
Transactions
1.
TOR
OTT
  1. Bracco, Jeremy
  2. Liljegren, Timothy
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (TOR)
2.
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Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2675 000 000 $83 617 500 $5 370 000 $4 550 000 $-8 617 500 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 3
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
UFA - 5
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
4 200 000 $4 200 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 1
2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C
UFA - 2
863 333 $863 333 $
AD
UFA - 2
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
612 500 $612 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
850 000 $850 000 $
G
UFA - 2
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
750 000 $750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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9 mai 2018 à 8 h 56
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I can only give you my opinion based on these few facts.
The leafs wants are depth at the Center (prospects and NHL ready) and Right Defense (NHL ready)
The Leafs have no trouble scoring or moving the puck. They have good special teams players
They are lacking solid defensive Dmen and have a tough time regaining possession and clearing the puck probably in part by their defensive system and of course their personnel.
-I’m ok with trading Bracco because the Leafs are very deep on the RW. I like him very much but there is just no room at the moment.
-Liljegren was in the race to be drafted in the top 3 in 2017 before he was sidelined with Mononucleosis and missed a huge part of the season leading up to the draft and his stock dropped. I was amazed he was still available when the leafs grabbed him at 17. After watching Liljegren adjust to the NA game this year and now seeing him in the AHL playoffs, I’m not moving this guy. He looks like he is going to be a stud.
-They are already saying 2018 is comparable to the 2003 NHL draft in regards to depth and even though the leafs are drafting in the 20’s there will be some good Centers available. I’d move the 2019 first not the 2018.
-I like Barrie but he is what the leafs already have, a offensive minded puck moving Dman who gets caught out of position at times. Yes he has a right handed shot but I have to believe, and I hope and Pray, that the leafs are looking for more defensive minded shut-down role Dmen who can compliment Reilly, Dermott and Gardiner and help stabilize the back end.
So for those reasons I think the Leafs decline.
9 mai 2018 à 9 h 47
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I like what @SirCharles said I think he's 100 on the button. I will add 1 thing though.

Considering that the Leafs are giving up the most you'd think the Leafs would be getting the best player.

I don't know if it's as simple a second maybe adding a Tyson Jost to Toronto or rearranging entirely who gets what. It is a great though, I just don't think after the Duchene deal, the Sens aren't going to be quick to deal with Avs again.
9 mai 2018 à 10 h 11
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Quoting: SirCharles
I can only give you my opinion based on these few facts.
The leafs wants are depth at the Center (prospects and NHL ready) and Right Defense (NHL ready)
The Leafs have no trouble scoring or moving the puck. They have good special teams players
They are lacking solid defensive Dmen and have a tough time regaining possession and clearing the puck probably in part by their defensive system and of course their personnel.
-I’m ok with trading Bracco because the Leafs are very deep on the RW. I like him very much but there is just no room at the moment.
-Liljegren was in the race to be drafted in the top 3 in 2017 before he was sidelined with Mononucleosis and missed a huge part of the season leading up to the draft and his stock dropped. I was amazed he was still available when the leafs grabbed him at 17. After watching Liljegren adjust to the NA game this year and now seeing him in the AHL playoffs, I’m not moving this guy. He looks like he is going to be a stud.
-They are already saying 2018 is comparable to the 2003 NHL draft in regards to depth and even though the leafs are drafting in the 20’s there will be some good Centers available. I’d move the 2019 first not the 2018.
-I like Barrie but he is what the leafs already have, a offensive minded puck moving Dman who gets caught out of position at times. Yes he has a right handed shot but I have to believe, and I hope and Pray, that the leafs are looking for more defensive minded shut-down role Dmen who can compliment Reilly, Dermott and Gardiner and help stabilize the back end.
So for those reasons I think the Leafs decline.


Are you saying Liljegren can jump into the Leafs line up next year and be an impactful Defensemen?
9 mai 2018 à 10 h 28
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I don't see Toronto giving up Lijegren++ to get Barrie.
9 mai 2018 à 13 h 1
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i wouldn't do lilegren for barrie straight up. leafs don't need another small puck moving d man. they need a d man who is reliable in his own end
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9 mai 2018 à 13 h 39
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Are you saying Liljegren can jump into the Leafs line up next year and be an impactful Defensemen?


Unsure how any of what I said gave you that impression.
No I never said that and I do expect Toronto to make a move, just not this one.
9 mai 2018 à 13 h 50
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Unsure how any of what I said gave you that impression.
No I never said that and I do expect Toronto to make a move, just not this one.


Relax, it was a question. Don't know much about Liljeberg and since you've apparently seen him play, thought you might be able to give some insight?
9 mai 2018 à 14 h 27
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Quoting: ThatGuy
Relax, it was a question. Don't know much about Liljeberg and since you've apparently seen him play, thought you might be able to give some insight?


HaHa I'm very relaxed! Again, I don't see how I gave you the impression of being emotional... Not sure what I can do to convey how I'm feeling, maybe emoji's ? rock on Yea, I seen him a couple times earlier in the season and you could tell he was a bit green but talented and real fast. He seems to play with more poise now and seems not to second guess himself. He stands out. That said I think he needs to get stronger and have a big summer. I actually would expect to see him called up for maybe a game or two next season, if all goes well, but I guess that'll depend on what the Leafs do to address their woes in the off season. Even though the Leafs had a good season the D-group looked like it had holes in 70% of the games... They can't break the cycle down low and are not strong enough to fight off forecheckers to win the possession battles. God only knows why or when it became cool to try to clear the puck through the middle of the ice... maybe because they are too weak to force it out on the boards... In anycase they need a couple of guys that can be a bit tougher.
All my time in hockey we were always taught when defending to use our body on the opposition to separate man from puck... All the leafs beside Reilly, Hainsey and Polak jab at the puck... I suspect even though fans don't like Polak that's way Babcock does. If they jab at the puck and miss they are screwed position wise. Hense, why Gardiner gets beat so often. I'm not saying you need to destroy players with big hits, just get in their way and slow them down, stay between them and the net. The Leafs need more of that. Hjalmarsson, Boumeester, McNabb either one of these guys would make a huge difference. May have an effect like Hainsey does for Reilly, Everything seems much more stable when he is on the ice.
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9 mai 2018 à 15 h 29
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Quoting: SirCharles
HaHa I'm very relaxed! Again, I don't see how I gave you the impression of being emotional... Not sure what I can do to convey how I'm feeling, maybe emoji's ? rock on Yea, I seen him a couple times earlier in the season and you could tell he was a bit green but talented and real fast. He seems to play with more poise now and seems not to second guess himself. He stands out. That said I think he needs to get stronger and have a big summer. I actually would expect to see him called up for maybe a game or two next season, if all goes well, but I guess that'll depend on what the Leafs do to address their woes in the off season. Even though the Leafs had a good season the D-group looked like it had holes in 70% of the games... They can't break the cycle down low and are not strong enough to fight off forecheckers to win the possession battles. God only knows why or when it became cool to try to clear the puck through the middle of the ice... maybe because they are too weak to force it out on the boards... In anycase they need a couple of guys that can be a bit tougher.
All my time in hockey we were always taught when defending to use our body on the opposition to separate man from puck... All the leafs beside Reilly, Hainsey and Polak jab at the puck... I suspect even though fans don't like Polak that's way Babcock does. If they jab at the puck and miss they are screwed position wise. Hense, why Gardiner gets beat so often. I'm not saying you need to destroy players with big hits, just get in their way and slow them down, stay between them and the net. The Leafs need more of that. Hjalmarsson, Boumeester, McNabb either one of these guys would make a huge difference. May have an effect like Hainsey does for Reilly, Everything seems much more stable when he is on the ice.


Honestly, I am not the biggest Babcock Fan. I mean, I know he has is awesome CV but he seems extremely stubborn and throughout the season, he'll pick up favourites that he'll go to, night in and night out, regardless of how well they're playing (usually grizzled vets). Can't see him trusting and playing a 1999 Defensemen on the backend for at least another maybe 2 / probably 3 years regardless how good he is in the Jungle.
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