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Changing the approach - trading with MTL, CAR, DET, NYR, PHI, ARI

Créé par: Starsfan98
Équipe: 2018-19 Stars de Dallas
Date de création initiale: 8 mai 2018
Publié: 8 mai 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I saw a post like this a little while ago. I don't recall who did it, but credit to them.

This is some retooling of that plan
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1950 000 $
34 500 000 $
21 000 000 $
21 000 000 $
2900 000 $
32 500 000 $
22 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Svechnikov, Andrei
3925 000 $
35 750 000 $
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
3925 000 $
Tufte, Riley
3925 000 $
Oettinger, Jake
3863 333 $
Transactions
1.
DAL
  1. Benn, Jordie
  2. Galchenyuk, Alex
  3. Pacioretty, Max
Détails additionnels:
2018 1st round pick (MTL)

Sign Pacioretty a 5-year contract with cap hit of $5,800,000
MTL
  1. Ritchie, Brett
  2. Seguin, Tyler
Détails additionnels:
Sign Seguin a 8-year contract with cap hit of $10,000,000
2.
DAL
    2018 1st round pick (CAR)
    RFA Joakim Nordström
    CAR
      2018 1st round pick (MTL)
      Negotiating rights for Valeri Nichushkin
      3.
      DET
      1. Hansson, Niklas
      Détails additionnels:
      RFA Gemel Smith
      4.
      DAL
        RFA Vladislav Namestnikov
        NYR
        1. Nyberg, John
        2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (MIN)
        3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (DAL)
        Détails additionnels:
        RFA Mattias Janmark
        5.
        DAL
        1. Neuvirth, Michal
        2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (PHI)
        PHI
        1. Spezza, Jason (1 125 000 $ retained)
        Détails additionnels:
        2018 2nd round pick (DAL)
        6.
        DAL
        1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (ARI)
        ARI
        1. Hanzal, Martin (712 500 $ retained)
        Rachats de contrats
        Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
        Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
        2019
        Logo de DAL
        Logo de DAL
        Logo de DAL
        Logo de DAL
        Logo de DAL
        Logo de DAL
        Logo de DAL
        2020
        Logo de DAL
        Logo de DAL
        Logo de PHI
        Logo de DAL
        Logo de ARI
        Logo de DAL
        Logo de DAL
        2021
        Logo de DAL
        Logo de DAL
        Logo de DAL
        Logo de DAL
        Logo de DAL
        Logo de DAL
        Logo de DAL
        TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
        2380 000 000 $72 349 999 $0 $3 212 500 $7 650 001 $
        Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
        9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
        AG, C
        NMC
        UFA - 7
        5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
        C, AG
        UFA - 3
        6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
        AD
        NMC
        UFA - 4
        4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
        AG
        UFA - 1
        4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
        AG, AD, C
        UFA - 2
        4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
        AG, C, AD
        UFA - 2
        863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
        AG, AD
        UFA - 2
        2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
        C, AG
        UFA - 2
        Svechnikov, Andrei
        925 000 $925 000 $
        950 000 $950 000 $
        AG, AD
        UFA - 2
        2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
        AG, C, AD
        UFA - 2
        1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
        AD
        UFA - 2
        1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
        AG
        UFA - 1
        1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
        C, AG
        UFA - 1
        Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
        2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
        DG
        UFA - 1
        4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
        DD
        UFA - 4
        4 916 667 $4 916 667 $
        G
        NMC
        UFA - 5
        894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
        DG/DD
        UFA - 3
        863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
        DD
        UFA - 1
        4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
        DG
        M-NTC
        UFA - 1
        2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
        DD
        UFA - 3
        2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
        G
        UFA - 1
        1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
        DG/DD
        UFA - 1

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        8 mai 2018 à 12 h 22
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        Namestnikov was valuable in Tampa because he fed off of and u could argue he even helped Stammer and Kucherov. He wasn’t centering and leading his own line. He hasn’t been great in NY because there arent any star players he can feed from. He needs to go to a team like Pittsburgh or Edmonton or even back to Tampa.
        8 mai 2018 à 12 h 29
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        Quoting: BigBeardBurns
        Namestnikov was valuable in Tampa because he fed off of and u could argue he even helped Stammer and Kucherov. He wasn’t centering and leading his own line. He hasn’t been great in NY because there arent any star players he can feed from. He needs to go to a team like Pittsburgh or Edmonton or even back to Tampa.


        Or maybe he could get some boost from Radulov and Pacioretty, or even Benn.
        8 mai 2018 à 12 h 30
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        Quoting: Starsfan98
        Or maybe he could get some boost from Radulov and Pacioretty, or even Benn.


        Ok, but he’s not a C IMO. He’s been better on the wing.
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        8 mai 2018 à 12 h 35
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        If Seguin is willing to sign with MTL in the first place, why not wait an extra year and sign as a free agent? its not like we wouldn't be able to match any offer anybody else would give in terms of dollar amount.
        8 mai 2018 à 12 h 36
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        Simmonds for Faksa? Voracek for Seguin? Those are two guys the Flyers would probably love to have but not sure what the price would be.
        8 mai 2018 à 12 h 42
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        Quoting: F50marco
        If Seguin is willing to sign with MTL in the first place, why not wait an extra year and sign as a free agent? its not like we wouldn't be able to match any offer anybody else would give in terms of dollar amount.


        It's a possibility. I think however that you'd be much more likely to get him signed if he hypothetically played a very good season with the Habs than just paying a crazy amount of money.

        If there is no trade, Dallas would try to resign Seguin, no matter the cost.
        8 mai 2018 à 12 h 43
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        Quoting: NateElder12
        Simmonds for Faksa? Voracek for Seguin? Those are two guys the Flyers would probably love to have but not sure what the price would be.


        Simmonds for Faksa sounds nice to me if Simmonds resigns with us.

        Voracek isn't that interesting piece in my opinion. He's a good player, yes, but I'd rather keep Seguin.
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        8 mai 2018 à 12 h 46
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        Simmonds for Faksa sounds nice to me if Simmonds resigns with us.

        Voracek isn't that interesting piece in my opinion. He's a good player, yes, but I'd rather keep Seguin.


        Interesting. Just floating it out there since I think it might help fill the needs of both teams (Simmer/Faksa). Just curious what a Stars fan thought instead of the randoms on here.
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        8 mai 2018 à 12 h 51
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        Quoting: Starsfan98
        It's a possibility. I think however that you'd be much more likely to get him signed if he hypothetically played a very good season with the Habs than just paying a crazy amount of money.

        If there is no trade, Dallas would try to resign Seguin, no matter the cost.


        Habs are one of the worst teams in the league. The just traded they best goal scorer, their 2nd/3rd best goalscorer and their best goal scoring prospect (draft pick) and Seguin is supposed to have a good season because??? lol

        It would be a strike of good luck just to get Seguin in the first place. Him having a good season with a worse offense than Dallas would be catching lighting in a bottle.
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        8 mai 2018 à 12 h 54
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        Quoting: NateElder12
        Interesting. Just floating it out there since I think it might help fill the needs of both teams (Simmer/Faksa). Just curious what a Stars fan thought instead of the randoms on here.


        Well, out of curiosity, would you accept a deal like this:

        Philadelphia Flyers
        Jason Spezza (20% salary retained)
        Radek Faksa
        Brett Ritchie
        2020 3rd round pick

        Dallas Stars
        Wayne Simmonds
        Brian Elliott
        Scott Laughton
        8 mai 2018 à 12 h 56
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        I don't know why Dallas would trade Seguin unless he said he didn't want to resign with them... The rarest things in the NHL right now are legit #1 star Centers and legit #1 star Goalies. You have to do everything in your power and wallet to resign them.
        8 mai 2018 à 12 h 59
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        Quoting: F50marco
        Habs are one of the worst teams in the league. The just traded they best goal scorer, their 2nd/3rd best goalscorer and their best goal scoring prospect (draft pick) and Seguin is supposed to have a good season because??? lol

        It would be a strike of good luck just to get Seguin in the first place. Him having a good season with a worse offense than Dallas would be catching lighting in a bottle.


        Happy to see there are some Habs fans that are realists and actually know the state of their team right now.
        8 mai 2018 à 13 h 0
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        I don't know why Dallas would trade Seguin unless he said he didn't want to resign with them... The rarest things in the NHL right now are legit #1 star Centers and legit #1 star Goalies. You have to do everything in your power and wallet to resign them.


        I don't really want him to be traded at all, but I know for a fact that this team needs a wake-up call, and this is one way to do it.
        8 mai 2018 à 13 h 18
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        Quoting: Starsfan98
        Well, out of curiosity, would you accept a deal like this:

        Philadelphia Flyers
        Jason Spezza (20% salary retained)
        Radek Faksa
        Brett Ritchie
        2020 3rd round pick

        Dallas Stars
        Wayne Simmonds
        Brian Elliott
        Scott Laughton


        It's interesting and not bad but I just don't feel confident enough to move Elliot. Would Neuvirth or Lyon or even Stolarz interest you? You wouldn't have to add Ritchie, Spezza, and/or picks. Maybe Simmonds/Morin/Lyon for Faksa/Honka. Is DAL really set on moving Spezza? I mean he would be a one year fill in I guess but not sure of his cost. The deal you posted above (Neuvy/Spezza) would be something that I'd probably do but Lyon or Stolarz would be cheaper than Neuvirth allowing you to save the same amount of money essentially - $1M difference between Neuvy/Lyon vs retaining $1M on Spezza - same thing. The only reason i ask about Honka too was just that the Flyers could use a right shot dman since we have all lefties except Gudas haha
        8 mai 2018 à 13 h 18
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        Quoting: Starsfan98
        I don't really want him to be traded at all, but I know for a fact that this team needs a wake-up call, and this is one way to do it.


        I don't see it as an option at all. Matthews/Eichel/Crosby/Kopitar/Getzlaf/Monahan/Barkov/McDavid etc. don't be traded to" shake things up", #1 centers are way too valuable to trade for anything but another #1 center
         
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