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Créé par: Sens4life
Équipe: 2018-19 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 2 avr. 2018
Publié: 2 avr. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
87 525 000 $
56 150 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
34 000 000 $
77 800 000 $
Dahlin, Rasmus
3925 000 $
13 050 000 $
Transactions
1.
PHI
  1. Karlsson, Erik
  2. Ryan, Bobby (2 700 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (OTT)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (OTT)
2.
OTT
DAL
  1. Burrows, Alexandre
Détails additionnels:
Picked off waivers
3.
OTT
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
4.
OTT
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2019 (BOS)
5.
OTT
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (ARI)
6.
CBJ
  1. Condon, Mike
  2. Harpur, Ben
  3. Hoffman, Mike
  4. White, Colin
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (ARI)
  6. Choix de 6e ronde en 2019 (BOS)
  7. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
Cody Ceci
2018 1st
Freddie Claesson
7.
OTT
    Rights to Zucker
    MIN
    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (OTT)
    Détails additionnels:
    Chris Wideman
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2019
    Logo de OTT
    Logo de OTT
    Logo de PIT
    Logo de OTT
    Logo de OTT
    Logo de OTT
    Logo de CGY
    2020
    Logo de CGY
    Logo de CBJ
    Logo de OTT
    Logo de OTT
    Logo de OTT
    Logo de OTT
    2021
    Logo de OTT
    Logo de OTT
    Logo de OTT
    Logo de OTT
    Logo de OTT
    Logo de OTT
    Logo de OTT
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2080 000 000 $66 569 443 $0 $2 710 000 $13 430 557 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    6 150 000 $6 150 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 5
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 1
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
    C
    UFA - 5
    7 525 000 $7 525 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    753 333 $753 333 $
    AG
    RFA - 4
    3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
    AG, AD, C
    UFA - 1
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance710 000 $$710K)
    C, AG
    RFA - 3
    728 333 $728 333 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
    C
    UFA - 2
    3 050 000 $3 050 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 3
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    7 800 000 $7 800 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 8
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    DG
    UFA - 1
    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 3
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance360 000 $$360K)
    DG
    UFA - 2
    Dahlin, Rasmus
    925 000 $925 000 $
    761 666 $761 666 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
    G
    UFA - 3
    1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 2
    925 000 $925 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1

    Unités spéciales

    Avantage numérique 1
    Avantage numérique 2
    Dahlin, R.
    Infériorité numérique 1
    Infériorité numérique 2

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    2 avr. 2018 à 15 h 47
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    Interesting...
    2 avr. 2018 à 19 h 58
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    mostly harmless
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    Modifié 2 avr. 2018 à 20 h 8
    I can't go so far as to say that there is no package the Sens could offer that would make it acceptable to trade Panarin and Wennberg both, but damned if I can think of what it would be. Sure as hell it isn't that pile of nonsense - we're not giving up two core roster players in exchange for only one and a bunch of whatever.


    EDIT: It occurs to me that referring to that as "a bunch of whatever" would be easily misinterpreted as dismissing some significant assets, so let's elaborate.

    Here is the useless noise that does absolutely nothing for us and adds nothing to the deal:
    Harpur (we're massively overstrength on LHD; he'd be playing in Cleveland)
    Claesson (ditto; he'd walk)
    2020 2nd
    2019 6th
    2019 3rd

    Here are the parts that actually are of some possible interest:
    Hoffman
    White
    1st 2018

    Condon actually detracts from the proposal's value, because we have zero use for him but his contract gets in the way of retaining our guys.

    So. Setting aside the "noise"... Panarin is a considerably better player than Hoffman, ditto Wennberg versus White (if White was able to prove himself at the NHL level sufficiently for our needs, he'd have more NHL time with y'all by now), and the 1st, albeit significant, is not particularly valued here because we already have one of the youngest teams in the NHL (the youngest before the trade deadline). And the draft's chief prize is a defenseman - a position we're extremely strong at. The net effect is that we lose a game-breaking forward that we're seriously dependent on and downgrade significantly at C for a probably high quality prospect that we have no need for. It's a significant net negative for a team trying to compete now - and that's before we throw in the impact of the Condon contract.
    3 avr. 2018 à 17 h 8
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    Quoting: TheBoulster
    Interesting...


    Interesting but some of that is not realistic.

    Example, Wild is not going to trade Zucker for a pick in 2020.

    And 9 assets for Panarin and Wennberg? What is that?

    Also, Flyers fans won't like that trade. Not sure why the OP keep making the same proposals
     
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