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Karlsson Trade according TB-NYR McDonaugh Trade

Créé par: MTLFAN27
Équipe: 2017-18 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 2 avr. 2018
Publié: 2 avr. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Condition is if Karlsson resigns in 2020.
Transactions
OTT
  1. Brännström, Erik
  2. Glass, Cody
  3. Miller, Colin
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
Conditional 2020 2nd Round Pick (CBJ)
VGK
  1. Karlsson, Erik
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2775 000 000 $65 307 499 $0 $1 462 500 $9 692 501 $
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Hoffman, Mike
5 187 500 $5 187 500 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Duchene, Matt
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Ryan, Bobby
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
MacArthur, Clarke
4 650 000 $4 650 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Smith, Zack
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Gáborík, Marián
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
AD
UFA - 4
Pääjärvi, Magnus
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
C
UFA - 3
Stone, Mark
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
McCormick, Max
650 000 $650 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Dzingel, Ryan
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 2
Burrows, Alexandre
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Pyatt, Tom
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
C
UFA - 2
White, Colin
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AD
UFA - 2
Chlapik, Filip
728 333 $728 333 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
C
UFA - 3
Glass, Cody
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 5
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Borowiecki, Mark
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Anderson, Craig
4 200 000 $4 200 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Chabot, Thomas
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance360 000 $$360K)
DG
UFA - 3
Ceci, Cody
2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Condon, Mike
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Harpur, Ben
653 333 $653 333 $ (Bonis de performance70 000 $$70K)
DG
UFA - 1
Wideman, Chris
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Claesson, Fredrik
650 000 $650 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Wolanin, Christian
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Miller, Colin
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Brännström, Erik
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD, AG
RFA - 5

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2 avr. 2018 à 15 h 37
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The best Karlsson trade scenario in my mind is similar to this. It'd be getting lucky and winning Dahlin then swapping out Brännström for N. Suzuki.
2 avr. 2018 à 15 h 53
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Don't see how this is similar to the McDonagh deal. McDonaugh was traded two season worth of playoffs, for a # 1, a former # 1 and a former second. JT Miller and Namestakinov cancel each other.
Here you want a last years former number 6 and 16 overall, much higher than the Tampa picks, a number 1 and what might be Vegas's best Dman this year Miller.
2 avr. 2018 à 18 h 8
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Quoting: palhal
Don't see how this is similar to the McDonagh deal. McDonaugh was traded two season worth of playoffs, for a # 1, a former # 1 and a former second. JT Miller and Namestakinov cancel each other.
Here you want a last years former number 6 and 16 overall, much higher than the Tampa picks, a number 1 and what might be Vegas's best Dman this year Miller.


Karlsson is still significantly better than mcdonagh though, that’s why the prospects are better
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3 avr. 2018 à 17 h 6
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Quoting: palhal
Don't see how this is similar to the McDonagh deal. McDonaugh was traded two season worth of playoffs, for a # 1, a former # 1 and a former second. JT Miller and Namestakinov cancel each other.
Here you want a last years former number 6 and 16 overall, much higher than the Tampa picks, a number 1 and what might be Vegas's best Dman this year Miller.


IF Karlsson is traded, it will be for 9 seasons worth of playoffs....

It,s a very good proposal IMO and I could see Vegas doing that easily. Acquiring a generational talent in their 2nd season, that would be glorious. They have a lot of picks, prospects and young players already and sacrificing a few for a franchise player would be smart. WHICH IS WHY they were trying hard to acquire Karlsson at the last deadline.
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3 avr. 2018 à 18 h 0
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IF Karlsson is traded, it will be for 9 seasons worth of playoffs....

It,s a very good proposal IMO and I could see Vegas doing that easily. Acquiring a generational talent in their 2nd season, that would be glorious. They have a lot of picks, prospects and young players already and sacrificing a few for a franchise player would be smart. WHICH IS WHY they were trying hard to acquire Karlsson at the last deadline.


Vegas has played one season and have made the playoffs. Karlsson has played 8 seasons and make the playoffs three times I believe. Your trade mentioned nothing of him resigning, of course neither did the McDonagh trade. So how is this trade a fair comparison at all?
4 avr. 2018 à 8 h 16
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Actually, even if I am a Sens fan, it would be great for Vegas : Best forward is a Karlsson and best D-man would be a Karlsson

Quoting: palhal
Vegas has played one season and have made the playoffs. Karlsson has played 8 seasons and make the playoffs three times I believe. Your trade mentioned nothing of him resigning, of course neither did the McDonagh trade. So how is this trade a fair comparison at all?


No, he played 9 seasons in the NHL and his team made the playoffs 5 times.

Listen, I have said countless times (can't control if people don't read/listen) that NO TEAM is going to pay what it will take to land Karlsson if he doesn't sign an extension right away. Sens are not going to trade him as a rental IF he is traded at all.

By the way, it is not "my trade" but the OP did mention in team explanation "Condition is if Karlsson resigns in 2020."
4 avr. 2018 à 8 h 35
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Actually, even if I am a Sens fan, it would be great for Vegas : Best forward is a Karlsson and best D-man would be a Karlsson



No, he played 9 seasons in the NHL and his team made the playoffs 5 times.

Listen, I have said countless times (can't control if people don't read/listen) that NO TEAM is going to pay what it will take to land Karlsson if he doesn't sign an extension right away. Sens are not going to trade him as a rental IF he is traded at all.

By the way, it is not "my trade" but the OP did mention in team explanation "Condition is if Karlsson resigns in 2020."


Then, I suggested, it not a comparison to the McDonagh trade at all.
4 avr. 2018 à 11 h 18
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Then, I suggested, it not a comparison to the McDonagh trade at all.


Yes, not sure why the McDonagh trade was brought up. Tampa has balls acquiring McDo with only 1 year left. Everything is possible but I don't see a team taking the same risk with Karlsson as the price will be much higher.
 
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